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is the 99-02 Cougars even endorsed here?

Considering they are really a third gen ford probe, do they get the same respect here, and the other ones?
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Considering they are really a third gen ford probe, do they get the same respect here, and the other ones?
How is the latest Cougar at all related to the probe? They shared platforms with the ford contour and mercury mystic...

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personally i do not like the newer cougars. front wheel drive and kind of "import lookin". i sat i one and it just seemed cheap. didnt mean to offend just my 2 cents.

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How is the latest Cougar at all related to the probe? They shared platforms with the ford contour and mercury mystic...
in other words...no.

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maybe if someone crammed at 4.6L in one, or a 3.8SC, and converted it to rear-drive, then maybe..... Sleeper?

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maybe if someone crammed at 4.6L in one, or a 3.8SC, and converted it to rear-drive, then maybe..... Sleeper?

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now thats an idea, most of the 99's+ that i see go by me with some dip in it with the chair ghetto leaned and his hat on sideways, and the "muffler" is making a horrible loud fart sound, heck one near my house has a dual chrome fart maker... . but they are kinda fun to drive with a stick.... not that i would buy one.

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they are related to the probe as it was going to be the 1998 model, until they discontinued it, and gave the car design to mercury. It has the 2.0 4 banger, and the 2.5 V6, that was to continue the Probe line
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they are related to the probe as it was going to be the 1998 model, until they discontinued it, and gave the car design to mercury. It has the 2.0 4 banger, and the 2.5 V6, that was to continue the Probe line

ok, well in a nutshell, we dont discuss, endorse, or support the "other cougar". On the title page of this site.... www.tccoa.com there is a small listing of model year cars we discuss and mod...your answer can be found there also.

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The 99 up cougar is the best car ever they hold value well, have a great bolt pattern, awesome engine's, high quality tail lights and you can remove them with NO tools!, I mean it makes the 97 cougar look like junk

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the 99 cougars are contour based. all of 99+ cougar, contour, mystique, villager, probes and festivia /aspires needs to driven into a big hole and never seen again . they are all pos. anythign that ford has a cross breed with is nothing but a headache. expensive to repair and not worth owning. and the 99 couagr is nothing but a chick car and most of the guys that own them around here are gay

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yea how bout it. the 97 cougar makes them look like junk and my freakin 91 eats them.

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I think you can probably figure out that there is no "room" for NEC's or NECO's here. There is a community of them over at www.cougarnuts.com.

Personally, I do not care for the styling of the NEC, but I can see where it was necessary for Ford to design models like the NEC and Focus. It opened up a market for Ford where they had no product to sell before.

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I was just stating that I didnt see much about the 99-02, and was just curious. I have a 97 Tbird LX. I had a probe before it. I miss my probe, Probes are still my Favorite car, but I love my Tbird ALOT
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actually my buddy had an 89 or 91 probe and we couldnt kill that thing. we pulled it in my mom's garage a fewe yeras ago till the rear tires were just at the lip of the floor. put the murf on and floored it. spun around 40 mph and smoke filled the garage. we did it for a good minute and afterward the trnny would not shift right. once it cooled it was fine. we also took it down a non-maintaned mountain road and bottomed out a lot! the guages actually quit working but we made it out fine and once again they started working again. the funny thing is the ranger didnt make it so well. he got a flat.

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99 - 02 Cougars should not have been called Cougars, the name should have been 'Probe II'.

Naming those cars as a Cougar does injustice to real ones like my 68.


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The new FWD Cougars are a discrace! At least Ford had the decency to keep the XR7 nameplate away from the new Cougars and reserve it for RWD V8 Cougars. I've heard that the ride quality was crap in the new ones, they lacked power, and it was a tight fit. Blah... the MN12s were so much better.

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The only crime committed with the FWD cougar was that it lacked power... oh but wait... so did my stock 92' 5.0....

I have no disillusionment with the MN-12 cars, yes I will never sell mine, but they are a dated chassis with limited potential because of weight and other issues.

IMO, the FWD Cougar was a very nice car built of a solid platform, but it should have been called a Capri and cost much less...

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99 - 02 Cougars should not have been called Cougars, the name should have been 'Probe II'.

Naming those cars as a Cougar does injustice to real ones like my 68.


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And the bloated underpowered MN-12 isn't an injustice to the Cougar name? My dad thinks anything less than 400 cubic inches doesn't count as a real V-8 and our stock 16 second quartermiles are laughable for a 'performance' car... but, hey at least it isn't FWD...

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And the bloated underpowered MN-12 isn't an injustice to the Cougar name? My dad thinks anything less than 400 cubic inches doesn't count as a real V-8 and our stock 16 second quartermiles are laughable for a 'performance' car... but, hey at least it isn't FWD...
Our cars are not performance cars. If you want a performance car, buy a Mustang or a Camaro. Our cars are midsize coupes. The big V8 is required for them to get out of their own way. I can't even fathom how slow my car would have been in stock form.

But they still use some technology that isn't found in many cars today. IRS. Automatic headlamps/seatbelts/mirror/ride control/climate control. Power seats. Fuel pump shut off.

They crammed our cars with all this cool technology, but like any older car, they don't work all the time.

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Our cars are not performance cars. If you want a performance car, buy a Mustang or a Camaro. Our cars are midsize coupes. The big V8 is required for them to get out of their own way. I can't even fathom how slow my car would have been in stock form.

But they still use some technology that isn't found in many cars today. IRS. Automatic headlamps/seatbelts/mirror/ride control/climate control. Power seats. Fuel pump shut off.

They crammed our cars with all this cool technology, but like any older car, they don't work all the time.
I certainly don't love my Cougar because it's perfect... but do love it just the same. The burble of a cammed V-8 through dual 2 1/2" pipes... how can you not love it?

Btw, my 92 doesn't have any of the automatic stuff, other than the power driver side seat, windows and mirrors... my V6 has all of the automatic crap, but none of it works...

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And the bloated underpowered MN-12 isn't an injustice to the Cougar name? My dad thinks anything less than 400 cubic inches doesn't count as a real V-8 and our stock 16 second quartermiles are laughable for a 'performance' car... but, hey at least it isn't FWD...
Well my cougar is not an injustice.

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Well my cougar is not an injustice.
I don't think mine is either... but I spent thousands to make it that way

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ill take a mn12 cat over a fox cat anyday. and stoltz, ask your dad if a 390 counts as a real v8, also thats why its called hot rodding, taking cars with limited potentail and making them outstanding machines.

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If you are looking for information on the newer Cougar, www.cougardb.com or fastcougar.com.

I drive one in the winter, because it keeps the miles off the Tbird. The car hasn't had any problems with 60,000 miles of use and the 2.5 24v is a nice powerplant. I've put $21 in to it, to replace some rear pads outside of any normal repairs. I don't think I would have bought one new, but it came at a good price and it's certainly better than a similar offering from GM or DC.

Then again, I'd think it's pretty gay to dump all that money into a 89 Cougar and not be any faster than the new one.
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its pretty gay my 91 with 185,00 miles kills them i think. i beat one with my 3.8 89 t-bird also. blue front end siver rest of the body. 200,000 miles. the faster we went the faster i pulled away and yes there was a v6 emblem on the trunk of the cougar. just sayin. i know somebody who bought one brand new and tradded it off quickly for a stang. but hey if like them fine. but y compare old to new?

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ill take a mn12 cat over a fox cat anyday. and stoltz, ask your dad if a 390 counts as a real v8, also thats why its called hot rodding, taking cars with limited potentail and making them outstanding machines.
I'm not sure... I think my dad had a 390 in one of his mustangs, but that was before he had the Mach 1 with a 428cj...

You can hot rod a V6 or 4 cylinder... I remember an article in Car and Driver (or another car enthusiast mag) comparing all of these tuner cars (Civics, Focus, etc) and I was actually kind of impressed. Do I prefer V8's... Yes.... but I don't knock other cars (like what was happening earlier in this thread) just because they aren't RWD or V8's... No.

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its pretty gay my 91 with 185,00 miles kills them i think. i beat one with my 3.8 89 t-bird also. blue front end siver rest of the body. 200,000 miles. the faster we went the faster i pulled away and yes there was a v6 emblem on the trunk of the cougar. just sayin. i know somebody who bought one brand new and tradded it off quickly for a stang. but hey if like them fine. but y compare old to new?
Unless your 91 is a SC, then you simply must have been in competition with someone that wasn't really racing you... because last time I checked 3.8's ran in the 17's and the V6 cougars in the 15's. If your looking for v8 power you'll be sourly disappointed with the feel of V6... but numbers do not lie.

Btw, I'll bet that same of friend yours would trade a na 3.8 mn-12 pretty quickly also!

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but there are some kick butt 4 bangers now its kinda sad my friends daily is a 2001 RSX type S with a Jackson Superchager header and hondata and I love that car its real quick and runs as smooth as stock and gets 27MPG the only down side is mad wheel hop.

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