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SUV experiences?

I am considering a new car. I have thought about getting an SUV. I dont want something huge though. First ones that come to mind are the chevy blazer and ford explorer. I think both are pretty nice, though a little bigger than I hoped. I am looking for something with good fuel efficency, and handles good in snow and ice. Willing to spend $3-4000, and minimally after that on repairs/maintance. Does anyone have any reccomendations, or any positive or negative experiences?

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Well for 3-4 grand, you limit yourself quite a bit.

With that kind of money you can get an all wheel drive subaru, like a mid 90s sedan. They are great in winter.

The earlier explorers are pigs on gas, you might be able to get a ranger with an extended cab.
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i sold my 96 jimmy for a new envoy. i love the envoy but the jimmy was a damn good truck, and you can pick thoes up really cheap now.

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What kind of highway gas mileage did you see with the jimmy? Also, are they fairly easy to work on?
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high teens, sometimes low 20's. not bad to work on except for the plugs, pain in the a$$.

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Explorers aren't the best on gas. You can probably get yourself into a 94 and under Explorer for that much... I wouldn't even bother with the Blazer...

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Are blazers a lot more expensive? I really like them (although..havent drove one yet).
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I heard the early Blazers had many problems. Just make sure to see what work might have been done. I think mostly what I heard was brakes which get replaced anyways. Check www.alldata.com for what kind of things to look for in each vehicle.
A couple friends in college had explorers and loved them.

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Avoid anything with a 4L60E or 4L80E transmission. I've owned a GMC Jimmy (65,000 miles when we got rid of it) and GMC Sonoma (71,000 miles now), both 97's, both had transmission problems. The rebuild on the Sonoma (at 64,000 miles) cost me $1800. Both also suffered from DexCool problems. Both had the heater core replaced because it was totally plugged up (10 hours labor and $700 plus on each). The Sonoma lost the water pump, thermostat (3 times) and radiator because of that crap. Also owned a 97 C1500 with the 4.3L and 4L60E and it was decent but I only put 37000 miles on it before I got rid of it. It was already on it's way for the DexCool problems.

We now own a 2002 Ford Explorer Eddie Bauer Edition. Great vehicle and reliable so far.

In a word, avoid 90's Chevy trucks. I personally don't think it worth the gamble.
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friend has a 95 blazer. 160,000 miles on it. doesnt burn oil, tranny shifts like new. Only problem I know is a sensor went bad and he couldnt stop, and had to replace the EGR 2 times in 3 yrs. Other than that, I say its a pretty solid SUV, mpg sucks though, but its an suv i guess

oh ya, he drives from chicago to NMU about 10times a year and it has never failed on him. (goes to college there but comes home every so often)
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How about a Bronco? You can get a mid 90's for what you want to spend, plus the advantage of the 5.0 motor. Parts are easy to get and not to hard to work on. Mabe you can find one with the 351 in it? My buddy's '94 gets about 19-22mpg on the highway. I like them much more than the Explorer. Just old school I guess.
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Broncos are the best. Tough and reliable. The Blazers just suck, last good ones were the K-5s everything since then If you want something good for under $4000 grab a Bronco or older Explorer with the 5.0.
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Never been a bronco fan really. Kinda ugly.

I am looking now mainly at a jimmy, explorer, or moutaineer. Finding one at a resonable price is rather dificult though...
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I heard the early Blazers had many problems. Just make sure to see what work might have been done. I think mostly what I heard was brakes which get replaced anyways. Check www.alldata.com for what kind of things to look for in each vehicle.
A couple friends in college had explorers and loved them.

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and fords don't have problems?

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one of my co workers has a nice unrotted 1993 bronco with a 351 he wants 4 grand for

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and fords don't have problems?

I didn't say that at all in my post (even though you aren't responding to it). I can only post what experiences I have had and they have been with GM S body vehicles. Nothing made up. If you do a search on 4L60E on Google Groups you will see a lot of people that have a lot of problems with that tranny.
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and fords don't have problems?
Didn't say they don't have problems. I have just heard about the blazer having major issues and I personally don't know about the 90s explorers.
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im just saying that any mid 90's suv is going to have its share of "common problems". im not doubting some people have had problems with blazer trannies. im sure if we all wanted to look we could find an endless amount ***** columns about ford suvs. if he wants to buy an suv from the 90's, it should more or less be on what he thinks looks, rides, or feels better. im sorry if i have offended anyone but most domestic products are equaly worthless, and my blood does not flow ford blue.

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Don't get me wrong, my blood doesn't flow Ford blue either. I just wanted to point out the notorious transmission problems with the 90's 4L60E and 4L80E that I discovered far too late. Those transmissions had some serisous design flaws from what I read. If he can find a Jimmy or Blazer that has had both the transmission fixed and the cooling system fixed then he should be good to go. As long as the valve body was fixed/corrrected from it's design flaws and the cooling system has been flushed and/or replaced and is not using Dexcool it should be fine.
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Everything from the 80s up has problems after electronics started taking over. They did have the advantag of better mileage and more power from smaller engines. The only one that didnt have problem like the other was the Bronco. But it looks and rides like a tank. That was it was built as, only came in 4x4. Alot of people dont like them because of that. Though I love them. The new SUVs are designed to be more comfortable and when you compromise on designs there are gonna be problems. Im not pure Ford either Ive owned two Chryslers. Just by what you like and want to drive.
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Amen.


My friend mother owns a 93 Blazer, I think it's a 93.. I know its a 90's Blazer, If I had three hands I couldn't count all the things that went wrong with it, and he is a Ford Tech, and they bought it brand new. Off the top of my head, there are electrical problems like whoa, neither of the power seats work, The back Latch you twist to open the tailgate or window cracked right off, Armrest door broke right the **** off, it's just a really put together ****ty truck...I'm not even talking about all the things that went as far as the motor, and the trans according to him is a ticking time bomb. Thing also gives you a damn headache because off all the rattles and what not, especially the famous S10 Blazer squeeking back window, it's enough to make you shoot yourself. I take comfort in knowing that the Trans in my Explorer, and the motor, are reliable in other Ford vehicles as well and have a good reputation... I owned one GM in my life, and it was the worst car I ever owned, never again.

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I think thats about the same thing that turned me off of GMC. My parents bought an RV with the GM chassis. I think it was back in 96(?) we were goin through Wisconsin on our way to Minnesota when the tranny grenaded in the middle of Wisconsin. The flattest place on the map. And talk about an expensive job.
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broncos are tanks becasue they are built on a 1/2 ton truck frame, where as the the smaller ones are ranger type, 1/4 ton . and they try to make them too car like. but yea v8 explorers rock

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I miss my 76 Ramcharger. 440 and put pretty much every Bronco that ran against me to shame. Of course it had factory Danas under it, but the 727A tranny sure wasn't much fun. Glad go a C6 and put under it.

The Blazer or Jimmy with the 4.3 becareful of the fuel delivery in them. Bad problem with the 1 injector fouling out.

Explorers, I think are way over rated for the little hp they have and gas mileage is terrible if you run over 55 mph for a vehicle from the 90's. That is in reference to the 4.0L. If you get the 4.0 make sure to have it checked over very carefully expecially if it has 100k on it. I can't remember the specifics but there was an issue with the timing belt sensor or a particular plastic piece under the cover.

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