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OUCH... Talk About a "Fender Bender"

I wonder how you start the message to HQ about this little "mishap"...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/27/sub...ged/index.html

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I see somebodys career is over.
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The Navy official said it now appears the undersea mountain was not on the navigation charts the crew was using.
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Wow. After being on one, that is pretty messed up. Usually grounding a submarine is an instant career ender, but since it wasn't on the charts, he may get his job back. When the Hartford ran aground in Italy, the Navigator, the Captain and a few others were fired.

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you know, Craig, when I first heard about that...
YOU were the first person to come to mind.

I thought, "Oh Lord, what has he done?!" HA!


I thought about it for a bit and remembered it wasn't yours.

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Hey Craig, don't they still use sonar? I mean DANG! How do you miss a MOUNTAIN?! They must have something to tell them if they are about to run into something!

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In a more thorough report i read, They were doing in excess of 30kts, charts where from 89 but even charts from 5 yrs ago still didnt have mountains in it, satellite imagery showed mountains but werent avail for use when charts were made.

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Ah yes...........sounds like the skipper was taking lessons from the captain of the Titanic.........if we go faster....we'll get there sooner..............guess he's just lucky it wasn't an iceberg.....

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The subs do not usually navigate with sonar.

They try to keep their whereabouts unknown, therefore, if they had the sonar on, their presence would be detected.

My understanding of this is that they usually navigate by charts.

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nobody's fault. things happen under the ocean, maybe the tsunami made that mountain rise somewhat and nobody had tracked it.

who could be blamed anyways? the guy steering is just taking orders from the XO, the XO is looking on a map that he has been trained to follow. the mapmaker had no idea the map is wrong and needed a new one with a big mountain in the middle. accidents happen. luckily it wasnt worse than it was and the sub made it home.

what did the gay whale do to the sub? bit off the tip and ate all the seamen. i think theres a gay whale somewhere near quam, not a mountain.

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The subs do not usually navigate with sonar.

They try to keep their whereabouts unknown, therefore, if they had the sonar on, their presence would be detected.

My understanding of this is that they usually navigate by charts.
Wrong.....there is more than one type of sonar....

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One of my co-workers was an officer on a nuclear-powered sub.

That is the jist of what he said. I know there are other "types" of "sonar".
I did not ask him to explain their other options, but he said that they primarily use navigational charts.

My point was (as Fubarian better said) that subs try to remain undetected, and therefore do not like to emit any type of sound or "radio" wave.

Close enough?

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