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who has put up a fence?

My, soon to be, wife and I are purchasing a house. One of the first additions to the house is going to be a privacy fence. We will be fencing in probably 1/4 to half an acre. I am just curious if anyone has some pointers for me, when I go to install the fence pieces. Should I rent any digging tools? Also, where would be the best/cheapest place to buy the fence pieces?

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1. Rent a POWER post hole digger
2. Have alcohol ready to imbibe when you start pricing fencing materials.
3. Set the posts in concrete (the redi-mix for posts is pretty good, IMHO)
4. Invest in good drugs… muscle pain killers!! (trust me on this one!!)
5. Use good gloves and eye protection
6. Use good tools
7. Use good galvanized nails/screws unless you want rust runs.

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1. Rent a POWER post hole digger
2. Have alcohol ready to imbibe when you start pricing fencing materials.
3. Set the posts in concrete (the redi-mix for posts is pretty good, IMHO)
4. Invest in good drugs… muscle pain killers!! (trust me on this one!!)
5. Use good gloves and eye protection
6. Use good tools
7. Use good galvanized nails/screws unless you want rust runs.

Those are just off the top of my head. Have fun!!!

Wanna help? heheh

Thank you for the tips. I will most definitely be renting a tool. However, I didn't know I had to embed them in concrete. I don't know what I was thinking. I guess I just thought you had to dig a hole, put the posts in, and cover them up. I guess that is WAY off eh?

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Yeah if you want it to stay up. You can buy premade sections but it is FAR FAR cheaper to build you own.

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I would also HIGHLY suggest you find out what the city/counnty/state codes are. They change OFTEN!!! There are things like, "It has to be on the property line, or it has to be within 1' of the property line, it has to be xx" high with a spacing of the boards zz" apart". blah, blah, blah, blah... It will drive you insane!

You don't have to put them in concrete, but it is a lot better and will make the fence a lot better in the long run.

You also might search on the internet on "how to install a privacy fence".

For example... http://www.ehow.com/how_14382_install-board-fence.html

Or I'm sure Hope Depot/Lowes and such have a cheap manual/book on that subject. Or if all else fails, check them out at the **gasp** Library.

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I would also HIGHLY suggest you find out what the city/counnty/state codes are. They change OFTEN!!! There are things like, "It has to be on the property line, or it has to be within 1' of the property line, it has to be xx" high with a spacing of the boards zz" apart". blah, blah, blah, blah... It will drive you insane!
i agree 100% because here for example you also need an ok from your neighbor to do it....

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Yeah if you want it to stay up. You can buy premade sections but it is FAR FAR cheaper to build you own.
Yes, we will be purchasing the "premade fence sections". I doubt it would save that much money. Currently, Lowes is selling 6' x 8' sections for $42ish. That is ready to be installed into the ground. So if I built my own, after purchasing the nails, wood, and everything else, it would probably save me 50 bucks or so. And the labor of putting everything together would not justify saving that little amount.

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I would also HIGHLY suggest you find out what the city/counnty/state codes are. They change OFTEN!!! There are things like, "It has to be on the property line, or it has to be within 1' of the property line, it has to be xx" high with a spacing of the boards zz" apart". blah, blah, blah, blah... It will drive you insane!

You don't have to put them in concrete, but it is a lot better and will make the fence a lot better in the long run.

You also might search on the internet on "how to install a privacy fence".

For example... http://www.ehow.com/how_14382_install-board-fence.html

Or I'm sure Hope Depot/Lowes and such have a cheap manual/book on that subject. Or if all else fails, check them out at the **gasp** Library.
Yes, we will check with the local laws/ordinace first.

Thanks!

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i agree 100% because here for example you also need an ok from your neighbor to do it....
Screw my neighbors! It is my house, not theirs. heheh

Plus, one of my neighbors already has a privacy fence. SO I am sure it wont be a problem!

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It's funny to see this thread today because i am repairing mine today!
We have to build our fences very strong to support the weight of our falling trees!



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You don't need to rent an auger. Just be sure your ground is well saturated before you dig the holes. Also remember, the bigger the hole, the more concrete it takes.

Also, it doesn't matter what the neighber thinks, its your yard, not theirs. If they b1tch, move 1 inch closer on your property.

Try to find ALUMINUM nails. galvanized will rust eventually.

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…Also, it doesn't matter what the neighbor thinks, its your yard, not theirs. If they b1tch, move 1 inch closer on your property..
I beg to differ with you on that point!!! I know many people that have taken that attitude and had to tear out shrubs, fences, storage buildings, etc. It all depends on the neighborhood. I can’t for the life of me remember what the “code” is called, but it usually isn’t a problem unless you’re moving into an upscale neighborhood.

I’ve seen some “codes” that state what color you are “allowed” to paint your house!!! Or what type of trees you’re “allowed” to plant!!!

That is why I’ll never live in a neighborhood like that.

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I beg to differ with you on that point!!!
Its differnet everywhere. And I'm to tired to argue about it right now.

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Agreed! It is VERY different from state to state, county to county, neighborhood to neighborhood.

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I’ve seen some “codes” that state what color you are “allowed” to paint your house!!! Or what type of trees you’re “allowed” to plant!!!
Thats how it is in the city I live in. I had to bring a sample of the color for them to approve it before anything could be painted.

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I have to redo my fence soon also.I was looking at Lowes and they have that plastic fence that I am looking into.Its not some cheap a$$ stuff, its actually heavy duty.Plus it never needs to be painted and wont fall apart.Just a suggestion as it is expensive, like 68 bucks for a 6x6 piece.
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The one piece of advice I see missing here is the most important one...

GET A SURVEY OF YOUR PROPERTY BEFORE YOU EVEN THINK OF TOUCHING A SHOVEL!!!!

Check out the "Neighbors and Boundries" board over at http://www.freeadvice.com and you will quickly understand why you must get a survey.

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I don't know how it is in GA, but in Ohio, you have to get a survey when you buy a house. You also have to watch out for those special "paint color/fences/out building" ordinances in areas designated as historic districts too, not just new, upscale neighborhoods. So, if you're buying a big old handyman special, you might want to check that out too.

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A trick with the concrete here...if you get the bagged stuff, simply pour it dry into the hole with the post, the moisture from the ground will wet it enough and it will harden. Little less work and a good sturdy post to boot.

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You don't need to rent an auger. Just be sure your ground is well saturated before you dig the holes. Also remember, the bigger the hole, the more concrete it takes.
he lives in GA...red clay.
rent an auger!

i put up a fence using panels...here are my notes:

measure the posts so the panel ends hit them dead center.
dump the sackcrete right in the hole...half a bag per post...full bag for corner...maybe more if its either side of a gate.
you have to anchor the post while it sets...use rocks you doig up or 2x4 to prop them up.
set all your posts the first day, run panels the second day.
sink the posts so they are just over the top of the fence panel, you can trim the tops at the end to even them up.
buy a beeswax toliet bowl gasket...crunch it into a bowl and stick your galvanized 2in deck screws in it....it will help lube the screw and make it easy to drive. battery lasts longer too.
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How about trees or shrubs? If you want it soley for privacy, it'll cost less, last forever, and never need paint! Only downside is you have to wait for the "fence" to grow.




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