Originally Posted by 94 Daily Driven 4.6L
How many AWD cars are in the 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's, 7's?
umm, brent rau, john shep to name a few. its easier than you think. grab yourself maybe 6 grand and a 1g awd and 10's are only a racetrack away.
ive seen stock awd dsm's make 185 to the wheels. theyre said to make 225 crank.
speed IS related to the amount of drag in the driveline. i have a club with 30 dsm's in the central california area, ive seen awd, fwd, small turbos, big turbos, almost every dam configuration you could think of we have. like i said, take a awd and fwd dsm with the same mods and put them on the freeway, itll be tied to the T until about 110ish. what does that tell me? speed is relative to drivetrain drag.
youre talking about drivetrain loss. different things. of course its gonna be around 20%+, but i wouldnt go any higher than 25% unless it was auto. you got a tranny, transfercase, differentials, each component takes a certain amount of power away.
obviously youve never been a car with such a turbo, that you dont get any positive boost till 4k, and dont reach full boost till 5k, but from 5k-8k its a dam blur. 3rd gear was scary, 4th was insane, 5th im glad he didnt get to. that guys awd i wont even mess with, this is the guy that has done 11's at the track([email protected]
i believe) on pump with a conservative tune. he was running a FP58, which is some weird *** conjured up 56 trim that forced performance custom made for him. i think its comparable to a 3065 but not ball bearing.
and god dam if crankwalk is the only thing people can find wrong about dsm's, theyre pretty sad. guess they dont know its only 2% of the 95-99 FWD's that "Could" get it. then again, how many 94-97 MN12's have blown up 4r70's? i know i took out 2 in 2 years babying it. i wouldnt mind getting CW at all, that just means im only 1000 away from fully forged internals on a 6bolt 1g motor, that doesnt walk. its said the people who have crankwalk symptoms go ahead and do a rebuild, and upon building find their crank pulley has seperated, which causes the same symptoms of Cwalk(except for the left turn clutch slip thingy)
Originally Posted by AverageJoe
I don't even LIKE imports and I'm more educated on them than you are.
educate this n00b. dsm's arent imports. built in Normal, Ill. the only thing imported were the 4g63 from japan, and seeing how good japan engines are, im dam glad they were made there, and not some mehican sweatshop where the rest of ford gets their parts.
1.6 60' times are some good 60' times for VR4s and R/Ts, your AWD DSMs as well, but Joe Lynch pulls 1.4xs in a 99 Cobra? Sure he runs 11 flat to a 10.6 in a 1.6 60' R/T (Matt Monett).
thats nice and dandy, but thats a cobra on slicks, vs a awd in street tires. ever seen a studderbox launch on awd at 5k with full boost at launch? or how about a Auto AWD with built tranny brakeboosting off the line? imagine a AWD with slicks, using the above launching techniques, sub 1.* 60fters will follow(given the clutch and axles hold)
And slapping on a bigger turbo means you won't feel any appreciable driveline loss? How about the significant about of power increase afforded from a larger turbo? My 9b's are good for mid-low 13s on a good day in a totally stock car. A pair of 16Gs on mine are good for over 500awhp and 11 flat. Your views are skewed.
umm i dont get where youre going at here. you mean a bigger turbo gives a significant increase in power? i thought it was for the sound. i know your stealth/3000gt whatever does mid 13's, and you should definately do the 16g swaps. 3000gt/stealths are badass, theyre still 10k in our area for crappy ones.
And yes, he has outrun me top end in his stock 94 SC 5speed.
umm duh. it was prolly in the 100+ range that he started pulling away. where your drivetrain started killing you. get some more mods and that will change. do the 16gs and tuning, and your top end will be so much better. maybe youll be able to keep up with me someday on the freeway. come january i will be dropping in a AGP RS60T, 720cc injectors, 255lph+aeromotive FPR, and DSMlink to tune(i have to wait till jan to get it smogged first, then ill have 2 years of no smog worries) im also looking for a 1g 6bolt to do a nice forged rebuild so i can use that 60T to its fullest, around 30psi should suffice for some pretty scary freeway, i mean drag strip, passes.