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Home wiring Q

Ok, this may sound dumb, but I have a nice migrane right now, and it's late. What I'm trying to do is wire up 2 light sockets with a push-button switch. The way I connected them is I took the Pos. lead from each socket, one lead of the toggle, and one end of the actual elec. cord and wired them all together. Did this for the Neg. side as well. This should work, right? All I want it to do is turn off/on using the push-button switch, so it isn't some fancy setup. My mind is drawing a blank right now, and I need to get this done so I can get to bed.

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Okay.. From the little drawing (man it's small!) it looks strange..

If red is positive and black is negative
you supply + & - to the left socket all the time and
the right socket you connect up the + to the switch and then
connect the - from the socket to the switch and then back to +

This is how you should connect it



Of course the + & - doen't matter if you're doing it in your home
but at least keep the colors right..

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Thank you sir! I know the pic was odd, lol... Best I could do at the time. I'll get it wired up today and try it out. One question on your wiring scheme- if one of the bulbs burns out, the other *should* stay lit, correct? This setup is for my fish tank hood, so I'd at least like to have one stay lit if the other burns out.

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Yeah it will...
This is called a serial connection..
and both lights will recieve 115 volts or whatever you've got..
(We got 240 volts over here)

If you connect them in parallell
ie
Pos----Bulb----bulb---switch---Neg
the bulbs share the volts therefore only getting
57 volts each and they will be really dim...
And if one burns out the other one goes as well...

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I see bad color coding and/or bad safety here.. So i will post this:



Note: Make sure you setup the "Hot" and "Nuetrals" correctly.

Only Switch the "Hot" Side.

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Great pic!

Glad I'm not connecting it up for Fordman..
We've got
Blue=0/neutral
Brown=Fas/Hot
yellowgreen=ground..

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Good point WkStill. Ground is very important and since this is for a fish tank meaning water is present I would also change the outlet to a GFCI

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Excellent pic. Thanks guys. I changed the wall outlet to GFCI last night, and I tested it with those little plug-in testers and it showed the proper ground. Now I don't have to worry about burning my house down, lol....

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Ok, the only thing that is different in my setup is that my switch has 2 leads coming off it, so no ground/green. The way I was thinking to wire it was all the black together (as the pic shows), then all the white together, and just hook the last lead coming from the actual cord (this is only a 2-wire cord, no 3rd prong) to the white as well. So basically where you have grnd/green, that would be white instead, and be connected to the other 3 wires (1 from each socket, one from the inline switch).

Would that work?

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The white wire is not a ground wire. It is a neutral wire. If the switch has no place for the ground (green wire) then leave it. Trust me, you don't want that white wire touching anything it's not supposed to... neutral as it may be, they're still live.

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Yup, I agree. I got it wired up correctly now. I took a look at it one last time, and I finally remembered how it was supposed to go. Thanks for all the imput Now I can really see what color my parrot fish are!

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Of the light or the fishies??

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thyg0d
Yeah it will...
This is called a serial connection..
and both lights will recieve 115 volts or whatever you've got..
(We got 240 volts over here)

If you connect them in parallell
ie
Pos----Bulb----bulb---switch---Neg
the bulbs share the volts therefore only getting
57 volts each and they will be really dim...
And if one burns out the other one goes as well...

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You got those names backwards Thygod. You're thinkin Series and Parrellel, and even then, you've still got it backwards.

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I didn't catch that AJ.. haha.. Oh, and Thygod it took me forever to figure out what brown/blue was one day, had to google it :-)

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Of the light or the fishies??
The fishies, man

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You got those names backwards Thygod. You're thinkin Series and Parrellel, and even then, you've still got it backwards.
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I didn't catch that AJ.. haha.. Oh, and Thygod it took me forever to figure out what brown/blue was one day, had to google it :-)
I'm going to blame it on a brain melt down...
Of course it's the other way around..
Don't really know what I was thinking when I wrote that..
Probably not at all...

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The fishies, man

I'll snap a few when I get home tonight.

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