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Bad Gandersheim, Germany, is a small village in the middle of nowhere which people normally visit to go for a cure. The only sound you normally hear in this area is the bell of the church reminding you to attend the mass on Sundays. At the same time, Bad Gandersheim is the home of Weineck Engineering, manufacturer of the world‘s most powerful, strongest and best accelerating road-legal car. It is the place of pilgrimage for the disciples of the combustion engine in search of salvation. Once arrived at the place of worship, tension will rise, resulting in high blood pressure and sweating. That’s quite a usual reaction seeing that, even after having driven all cars called supercars, one knows that what is going to happen will be a new chapter in the never-ending search of the greatest of all times. After ringing the bell, the doors to the holy shrine open, allowing a sneak peak of the silhouette of THE ULTIMATE.
Devoutly approaching THE ULTIMATE, the unmatchable finishing quality of this unique, hand built masterpiece becomes apparent. Highly visible: The gigantic air-scoop of the engine bonnet. Air scoops can be seen anywhere to show off, but here it is really a technical necessity since this air scoop and the engine bonnet cover a world-unique masterpiece of technical genius with a cylinder capacity of 780 cui (or 12.9L), the heart of THE ULTIMATE. It’s a very exclusive, rare opportunity to be able to witness the awakening of something you never dreamt of even in your wildest dreams…
The first turn of the key activates the gigantic high-pressure fuel pump. To tromp and release the accelerator pedal means: more than half a litre of finest nutrition (fuel) have arrived inside the ultra high-performance carburettor system to feed the devil.
The next turn activates the gigantic starter motor to spin the crankshaft resulting in a big bang and immediate, stable idle at around 1,000rpm. From now on, there’s only one talking: the devil (or your best friend!) himself!

The awakening alone is something you’ll never forget in your lifetime. From now on, any form of human conversation is impossible! For anxious, non-addicted human beings it will already mark the end of their journey where ours now begins. Being aware of the absence of any driving aids of the digital era like ASR, ESP, ABS etc., the first gear is now engaged. Slowly releasing the clutch, THE ULTIMATE starts moving very smoothly.

Dr. Jekyll. All high mech used in this unique piece of machinery works perfectly from the first metres driven. You can really drive THE ULTIMATE for a relaxed warm-up of all fluids and tyres, just like any usual supercar. The change of gears at low rpm is smooth and the devil under the bonnet is still friendly, but, of course, always trying to spin (and keep spinning!) the wheels. After 15-20 km the temperature of the tyres and fluids are at normal operating level. Even up to 4,000 rpm, the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition accelerates faster than any other supercar when fully driven. The accelerator pedal always has to be operated very gently and with respect.
You always need r-e-s-p-e-c-t to stay friends with this machine!!!

Mr. Hyde. Words cannot describe what will happen if you want to experience the full potential of this ULTIMATE driving machine. There is just no comparison with anything ever built to be used on the road!!! The engine gains rpm like a pure race car engine. That’s normally already impressive, but bearing in mind that what propels you has nearly 3 litres (the total capacity of e.g. a BMW 330i!) – more capacity than the biggest and strongest of all powerboat engines ever built…
What happens above 5,000rpm (the engine delivers its world record torque of 1,760 Nm at 5,600rpm) is too much for human vocabulary. It’s more like Sol 5 on Starship Enterprise! You feel like being in a time machine with corners approaching so fast that you just won’t believe it. From now on, your brain and body have to work at maximum speed. Otherwise it is better not to enter this world…
Now you know what the Donohue style of driving really is…
The rev. limiter is set to cut in at 8,000 rpm (the engine reaches its maximum power of, 1,100 hp at 7,000 rpm), and the gears have to be changed at 7,000 on the gauge, otherwise you already hit the limiter (the engine revs faster than the classic Smith instrument can follow!). The insane, highly-addictive (words like e.g. sound, noise, music cannot describe what is meant here created by this devil greedily soaking up all air and fuel in its surroundings and afterwards coughing out the waste of it through the side pipes under the doors at insane velocity) mechanical orchestra plays works never heard before…
A car mainly lives from its engine! After experiencing this one, yes, it’s true!!!

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From 0-300 km/h in just 10 seconds!!!

That is, of course, not only possible by using the strongest, naturally aspirated engine ever built for a road car. We also know: Power is nothing without control! That’s why the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is being built using a MIG welded, self-supporting tubular frame (diameter = 4”) to absorb very high torsion forces created by the engine. Additionally, its body is deep drawn from carbon composite materials for maximum rigidity. Single wheel suspension including a continuously variable coil spring system (all suspension parts are made of highest quality aluminium and titanium!) in conjunction with a specially engineered high-performance brake system (based on Brembo components) with internally ventilated, punched brake discs (front and rear axle) controlled by an arm of balance system guarantees an individual set-up suiting individual driver’s preferences resulting in high-precision driving (and braking) quality for highest active safety.

On the front axle, the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is equipped with special Weineck 3-piece 18” wheels and intermediate tyres of the dimension 255/40 ZR18. On the rear axle, tyres of the size 315/35 ZR18 are fitted. The 4-speed extra high-performance gearbox, driveshafts and rear axle (equipped with a 75% limited slip differential) are designed for more than 2,000Nm of torque! The interior of the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition will be designed individually to meet any customer’s wishes. Normally, finest British leather is being used for the upholstery of the seats. All colours, piping’s and sewing’s can be individually chosen. The rest of the passenger compartment is finished by using velours carpets. For the dashboard, classic Smith instruments are being used. In case of rain, the car is equipped with a soft top to protect both the driver and the interior. If requested, a fixed hardtop is also available.

Each unit of the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is a unique masterpiece of German Engineering.

All products used to build a Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition are engineered and produced by Weineck in Bad Gandersheim, Germany. With a weight-to-power ratio of 0.9Kg/hp, 12.9 litres of engine capacity, 1,100hp and 1,760Nm of torque we can only say: If the modern times bore you to death and all the money in the world won’t help: Don’t worry, don’t kill yourself, here is the cure for any such diseases!!! One thing, for sure, isn’t true: I can’t get no satisfaction… That was before the birth of the Weineck Cobra 780CUI Limited Edition!!! Only 15 lucky individuals worldwide will be able to share this once-in-a-lifetime experience with us. Don’t miss it and join the club!

Chassis

The basis of this world-unique road-rocket is always the wide-hip body of the Cobra 427 SC in its original shape and dimensions which allows integration with modern vehicle components without disturbing the authentic look of the car. Its body is structured as follows:
MIG welded, self supporting tubular frame (diameter = 4”) to absorb very high torsion forces
all main parts of the chassis are built from aluminium and titanium
aluminium safety fuel tank integrated in tubular frame structure
body completely made from carbon composite materials (deep-drawn)
integrated reinforcements at high-wear points such as doors, hoods
highest quality paint coating individually coloured to the customer’s wishes
single wheel suspension
front and rear axle kept in place by Teflon and Unibal joints
power steering
safety roll-over bars

Brakes / suspension

-coil spring system
-continuously variable suspension (height and hardness individually adjustable)
-all suspension parts are made of aluminium and titanium
-specially engineered high-performance brake system (based on Brembo components) with internally ventilated, punched brake discs (front and rear axle) including special high-performance brake pads and Stahlflex brake hoses
-braking force (braking deceleration) controlled by an arm of balance system the engineering and setup of both suspension and brakes guarantees high precision driving (and braking) quality for highest active safety

Wheels/tyres

Front axle
3-piece 18” Weineck wheels with tyres 255/40 ZR 18 (Intermediate)
Rear axle
3-piece 18” Weineck wheels with tyres 315/35 ZR 18 (Intermediate)

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Engine

The world’s most powerful car is powered by a naturally aspirated V8 engine with the highest power output and torque of all road-legal cars.
The world-unique precision with which this masterpiece is manufactured guarantees its unmatchable performance and at the same time maximum reliability.
All parts used for the engine are machined with highest precision to Formula 1 standards.
As follows the setup of the engine
Engine displacement: 780 cui (12.9 L)
Compression ratio: 11.5: 1
Cylinders: V / 8
Including:
-especially machined distortion free high-precision cylinder block
-individually machined high-precision crankshaft each crankshaft is fine-balanced using master weights (counter weights simulating the weights of the pistons and connecting rods which are installed later). A more exact balancing of the crankshaft is not possible!!!

-lowest crankshaft bearing tolerance Crankshaft pins are smoothed to an accuracy of 5 thousandths of a millimetre-which allows for extremely high revolution rates!!!
-super high-performance Weineck pistons
-endless piston rings (to prevent the combustion energy from bypassing the piston)
-super high-performance Weineck connecting rods
-individually machined high-performance cylinder heads All cylinder heads are prepared with a 16-knife milling head to ensure the same surface quality throughout the milling process
-individually machined high-performance valve seats. All valve seats are milled with an accuracy of up to the hundredth part of a millimetre and all three valve seat angles are milled in a single operation
-individually engineered and machined high-performance lightweight titanium valves - individually handmade, super high-performance exhaust manifolds (headers)
-super high-performance exhaust system
-super high-performance engine oil cooling system
-super high-performance gearbox oil cooling system
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-super high-performance rear differential oil cooling system
-super high-performance ignition system (fully digital) with rev. limiter

Max. power: 809 kW / 1,100 hp at
7,000 rpm.
Max. torque: 1,760 Nm at 5,600 rpm.

Fuel quality: Super plus unleaded 98 RON


Its rear axle is equipped with a 75% limited slip differential.
Gear ratios
1. gear 2.741
2. gear 1.778
3. gear 1.15
4. gear 0.863

Rear axle ratio: 2.70: 1
Interior
The interior of THE ULTIMATE will be designed individually to meet any customer’s wishes.
Only finest leather is being used for the upholstery of the seats. All colours, piping’s and sewing’s can be individually chosen. The rest of the passenger compartment is finished by using Velours carpets For the dashboard, classic Smith instruments are being used. In case of rain the car is equipped with a soft top to protect both the driver and the interior. If requested, a fixed hardtop is also available. The Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is a unique masterpiece of Ger¬man Engineering. All products used to build a Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition are engineered and produced by Weineck in Germany. Each car is being delivered with all papers needed to issue a German letter of ownership (Kraftfahrzeugbrief ) under new EU law and a certificate of authenticity stating the serial number of this rare collector’s car.

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you left out the most important info.....price???

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you left out the most important info.....price???
I think it's probably one of those if you have to ask you can't afford it sorta things

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Pretty neat, except for the dead dolphin hood scoop. Looking around on the site a bit, I noticed BB Chev engines installed. Guess they don't know about the 460-based IHRA Pro Stock engines that are similar size and power.



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well, if that's the case i'll keep dreaming about my SL65 AMG.....

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well, if that's the case i'll keep dreaming about my SL65 AMG.....
Nah, I'll take a CL65

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I think it's stupid. That car must handle like sh*t compared to a 302 based cobra.




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I think it's stupid. That car must handle like sh*t compared to a 302 based cobra.
Not to mention it is fugly, but I guess if you are trying to really compensate for something that might be the car for you.

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I think it's stupid. That car must handle like sh*t compared to a 302 based cobra.
why, i bet that motor in all its glory isnt much heavier than the 302's back in the day, so i doubt it would change the balance much, then again, the suspension it has is also a ****load better than your normal cobra suspension.

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they sound full of themselves....anyone actually check the website. Ill have a laugh when they get an intellectual property suit filed in the Hague since they decided to freely use the name of some guy with a hat and chili.




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Excuse me whilest I hurl....

Take the beautiful lines of a Cobra and drop one of them thar bug catchers on top of it!!! He!! yeah!!!

Then to add insult to injury... drop a "Chebby" into it!

I'm also partial to the reverse speedometer that isn't paired with another gauge...

And.... 600 rpm.... with about 6 volts DC. Charging issue?!?!

Hmmm, "From 0-300 km/h in just 10 seconds!!! or... From 0-186 mph in just 10 seconds!!!

Stock Cobra.... in 1964 = 0 - 100 - 0 mph in 13 seconds... Yeah, not 186 mph, but still impressive!!

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i dont get some of this

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The engine gains rpm like a pure race car engine. That’s normally already impressive, but bearing in mind that what propels you has nearly 3 litres (the total capacity of e.g. a BMW 330i!) –
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That’s why the Weineck Cobra 780 cui Limited Edition is being built using a MIG welded, self-supporting tubular frame
umm, i dont think 780CID equals 3.0L. more like 13. unless its just a typo.

edit, nevermind, i read it even more, and it is a typo. if i wasnt lazy id just delete this post.

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Not a typo, you just forgot to keep reading untill the period.

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That’s normally already impressive, but bearing in mind that what propels you has nearly 3 litres (the total capacity of e.g. a BMW 330i!) – more capacity than the biggest and strongest of all powerboat engines ever built…

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Say it's fugly all you want. That texas company that makes the kit with the 302 is nothing compared to this. They have over-engineered the engine, suspension, tranny, everything. Even the tires are awesome. Sure, I'm not big on the scoop, but just imagine driving it for a second. Crapping yourself, then driving it again and again.

Also, they make other cars, cobras from 500-1200 HP. Look at the pics of the white one with blue stripes. Sweet.


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Not a typo, you just forgot to keep reading untill the period.
i think thats supposed to read 13 Litres though, as 780ci=13L i think(dont fell like doing math right now). as what capacity theyre talking about in referring to 3Litres on that cobra and a 3.0L beamer escapes me.

and i think that scoop is insane looking on that car. it matches really well with the huge opening up front that weve come to love. this cobra reminds me of something youd see on a game like "Test Drive" where its the fastest car and you only get it by beating the main villian guy, and while its a cobra, its a whole lot more, thus the hood scoop.

that car reminds me of a Guppy Fish. fat and chubby, big mouth(the front) with gills on the side(the side pipes), or maybe im just retarded.

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i think thats supposed to read 13 Litres though, as 780ci=13L i think(dont fell like doing math right now). as what capacity theyre talking about in referring to 3Litres on that cobra and a 3.0L beamer escapes me.
Lets try removing the subtext entirely and see if it's better for you 3L is exactly what they wanted to say.

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That’s normally already impressive, but bearing in mind that what propels you has nearly 3 litres more capacity than the biggest and strongest of all powerboat engines ever built…
basically biggest baddest boat engine, which I suppose is 10L + bmw = capacity of this motor.

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Very impressive. Those Germans mean business.

And who cares if it's not a Ford engine? Do you know how many classic Fords are stuffed with Chevy 350s? And how many Chevy classics use a Ford 9 inch? I'm sure the people who purchase this bad boy aren't in the same market of those looking for an actual Shelby Cobra. It's just a very nice kit car that pays homage to the American racing icon in my opinion.

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Very impressive. Those Germans mean business.

And who cares if it's not a Ford engine? Do you know how many classic Fords are stuffed with Chevy 350s? And how many Chevy classics use a Ford 9 inch? I'm sure the people who purchase this bad boy aren't in the same market of those looking for an actual Shelby Cobra. It's just a very nice kit car that pays homage to the American racing icon in my opinion.
I think this is alittle more than a kit car


BTW I wonder if the car comes with a years supply of Depends?

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Lets try removing the subtext entirely and see if it's better for you 3L is exactly what they wanted to say.



basically biggest baddest boat engine, which I suppose is 10L + bmw = capacity of this motor.
ah i get it now. thanks. i think whoever wrote that article sucks at wording a few things to confuse simple minds like me.

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It sounds like it was written by a brit, that's why they do stupid stuff with English.

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