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Need some non-Tbird opinions.....

Basically, I am looking for a factory turbo'd car that I can find relatively cheap, and have some fun with it by modding it and restoring it (depending on what car I get). so far, here is what I have narrowed it down to:

89-91 Probe GT (2.3l turbo)
89-91 Mazda mx6 DX (same as a probe GT)
90-92 Toyota MR2 Turbo

Any other cars that you guys can think of?

and I am basically looking to have an initial investment of $1500 or less (just for the car).

thanx in advance!

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Get a 91-92 Nissan 300 ZX there stupid fast with the twin turbo dohc (the timing chain is a bi*ch to replace) I find them in my town for about 1200 to 2000 at the cheapest. There is tons of mods for them.


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Geo sprint turbo, dodge spirit r/t turbo, sunbird turbo, dodge omni GLH/GLHS

I've seen the sunbird and spirit hand the smackdown to mustangs the omni might be out of the price range though
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go for the MR2

I have a guy here that's building one up, apparently the parts are cheap and they make a 5-valve head for it. If you can't find all of the pistons to match it, just get one in reasonable condition and have it copied (a bit more expensive, but you'll have a new set). My friend got that head from Africa (I think) dirt cheap and it has individual throttle bodies for each cylinder. There's a stroker kit to turn the 1.6L engine into a 1.8. I think the same block can be found on some old geo prisms (this is what I was told, since Toyota and GM shared some parts in those days) and it has oil squirters stock. If you want, I can ask the kid some questions for you. Supposedely the engine is also easy to convert to a DIS using the MegaSquirt computer (if you don't know about Megasquirt, search the internet...basically it's an ecu for your car that you can program in C++ and lets you tune on the fly with your laptop in the car, everyone I know that has switched their cars from a distributor ignition to a DIS uses this). If you want I can find out the name of a company that specializes in that 5 valve head and building up that motor.

I have two guys that built up their probes and they said they'd never do that again (too expensive and too many problems). One kid dyno'd his car at around 260whp (EDIT: I called the guy, I think this hp number I'm remembering is way too high...I'll change it when he calls me back) on 6psi, but he had a beefed up 2.5L (the 6-cyl). If you want something cheap that's already done, he's selling that car...it's already completed and he's got like a 9psi turbo on it now.

I also know someone selling a heavily modified volvo (the boxy station wagon one). He's running like 14psi, built up suspension, BMW trans., tons of parts from Europe, said it runs the quarter in the 14's. I've been in both those cars and the probe felt faster. I think they both want around the same price.

I think if you want cheap, fast, and easy...go for the mr2. The probes aren't worth the aggrivation when they run correctly, modifying that car doesn't help. I've never met a happy probe owner unless they were fooling themselves, except for one kid who's car is full of tv's.

EDIT: He didn't call me back yet, but I found this on the mx6 forums:
"...made 289whp and 259 lb-ft on 7psi with 2 bad fuel injectors and 21 degrees of timing. This is with almost the same engine I have as far as pistons/rods are concerned. He honed his own block so his cylinder compression was lower than mine by 40psi per cyl. So Im pretty sure I can make 300whp on 7psi w/ my low compression setup."

this is the thread: http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142264

most of these guys build up the v-6 though

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Probes really arn't that bad of cars. The only thing that sucks on them is the auto tranny, and the CV joints like to go bad. Other then that they are fun to drive. I had a 94 Probe GT, that thing cornered like a champ.

Other cars to look into though are an eclipse and the turbo coupe. Or theres the turbo mustang. I think that was in 85

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The turbo Mustang came out in 79 and I think it lasted till the rebirth of the GT in 82, unless you're talking about the SVO Mustang. That was 84-85. We had one back in 79, it was a fun car to drive though it didn't compete with the 79 RX7 (nonturbo) we had at the same time. I think it'd be fun to get an early Turbo mustang and install a Fox body Turbocoupe set up in it, (Basically what an SVO Mustang is) The early Mustang Turbos had a set up that had the exhaust running from the manifold on one side, under the engine and back up to the turbo/intake manifold on the other side.


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don't do the probe....The dodges weren't bad just keep a few turbo's in stock.
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Good luck finding a GN for $1500 unless its an 84-85 and a rust bucket or shell

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Go check out turbofords forums in the for sale section. You should be able to find a Merkur or a turbocoupe fairly cheap. If you get lucky, maybe someone is selling their fox body turbo swap. May be a little more pricey, but the mid 80's SVO was cool.

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Merkur is a good idea and nice drivers too.
Don't forget the extremely rare turbo 2.8 camaro...bleh

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I think you'll have a pretty hard time finding a Turbo MR2 in that price range.

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Here's one you can find for that amount: 1989-1990 Pontiac Turbo Grand Prix. 3.1L V6, 205 horsepower--220 ft/lbs torque. Plenty of room for improvement!
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I "third" the merkur xr4ti. Might be a little harder to find parts, but they can be had for a song.
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Another one people forget about is the Mitsubishi Starion/Dodge Conquest TSi. I know one of those spanked my 82 Mustang GT's arse "back in the day"...

But I'll also vote for the merkur xr4ti.

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conquest Tsi's are sweet too. There also pretty torquey arent they? 2.5l turbo right? i think ive seen like two of those cars ever.
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SVO Mustang for parts availability, XR4TI for uniqueness. Generally all the Merkurs you see for sale on eBay are two cars, LOL. They buy another one for a parts car, but get both of them running or leave the parts car 2% away from being a driver.

Personally and it doesn't fit your requirements, but I think a turbo Ranger/Pinto/Falcon is what I would do. Hey, wait, I have a Falcon...nah, that is getting a SC 3.8 or a 4.6 (yeah, likely staying a 5.0 car hahaha).

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hmmm, turbo coupe is an option, I totally forgot about those...DOH!

Ok, MR2 is a little pricey from what I have found so far
XR4Ti I have yet to find one close enough
conquest TSi....hmmmmmmm
Geo sprint turbo, dodge spirit r/t turbo, sunbird turbo <--forgot about all of those....


Ok, guess I'll be busy for the next day or tow. thank you guys for all the input, you just broadened my options. and infamous, I want a car to "play with", I don't want to buy someone elses work since that would be going 100% against the whole point of this thread. And I am not looking into making a track car, just looking for a car to have some fun with
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hmmm, turbo coupe is an option, I totally forgot about those
Oh, I thought since you didn't include something so obvious that you'd already ruled it out! Cool thing about a TC is all the guys on here who can share their experience and knowledge with you.
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id say go for a eagle talon AWD turbo. ive seen them pretty cheap on ebay. they may need a little body work but hey hats ok if it runs right. but id figure with the awd you couldput as many mods and get the hp up there and never worry bout traction. and the hole shot for those things is unreal ive heard. i talked to a guy runnin around 500 hp in one and he said you hit the gas and its very little if any wheel spin and he said you better have your head against that seat or you'll have whiplash. id like an eagel talon or a mid 90's eclipse. but i want the awd version.
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How about a 88-89 Turbo Caravan? nothing like running 12's in a cheap Minivan.

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knowing their crappy history , i would stay away from any probe of any year including its mazda cousin, just horrible little cars . especailly when they break, 700 distributor ? yep , on a probe , 800 mass air, yep on a probe , 75.00 rear sway bar links, yep a probe . lower control arms , 200 + a crack . just becasue they handle well doesnt mean they are good cars (nitefire) the contour and mystique are nice handling too, but a total pos .

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oh ya i forgot about the minivans i want one as a sleeper . the best sleepers you ever seen. just slap a huge turbo on there. crank it up to hmmm what was they said 20-25 psi on a stock engine with no mods. and an intercooler and a gutted interior and your set for running 12's
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I new disty on my 94 only cost me 200. I had it done at Les schwab so I think it was done right. The 2nd gen ones are built better then the first gens though
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and I am basically looking to have an initial investment of $1500 or less (just for the car).
90-94 1g AWD Eclipse/Talon/Laser. dude by far the best bang for your buck modifiable car in the world. theyre cheap, look better than any of the above listed, and will kick any of the aboves *** listed stock for stock.

basically a 90-94(1g) awd youre starting out with a 14b turbo stock. its a very stout turbo, and will be able to run 20psi(after fuel mods added) and flow up to 30-35lbs/min(roughly 300-350hp). you get the car alright, first order of business is a ball&spring boost controller(10 bucks) and a boost gauge(50 bucks), and a rewire of the fuel pump(20 bucks), and you can go from 11ish psi to14-15psi. then youre gonna have to get a bigger fuel pump(might as well do it instead of a rewire, its only 90 bucks), like a 190lph if you dont plan on going past 400hp, or a 255 if you plan on going bigger, but a 255 will require a aeromotive fuel pressure regulator(200 bucks), as the 255 pump will overrun the stocker. then on to injectors, stock are 450cc, but anything more than 15psi will require no less than 550's(200). then get you a logging setup(palm pilot and Pocketlogger cable work good, 250 for the combo), and a SAFC2(250). you use the logger to monitor knock, timing, o2 volts and then you use the safc2 to tune the injectors. that setup will take you past 15psi and up to 22psi safely, but the 14b runs out of steam at 20psi. the safc becomes useless if youre trying any more than 650cc injectors, as it cant compensate enough for their size. basically this setup maxes out at around 40lbs/min of airflow, as you arent going to have the ability to tune for anything past that, due to lack of fuel(if you still had the 550's and 190lph pump), or lack of ability to tune the setup right with the safc.

your next option is to ditch this "ghetto" lying *** piggyback safc crap and go straight to DSMlink(500 for the setup), which has almost all the features of standalone, but still utilizes the ecu, and unlike piggybacks, youre not lying to it, youre using the ecu like it should be used to control the car. need a laptop though, so if you have one already, cool, if you dont, gotta add that. with dsmlink, you can control injectors super easy, plug in the global compensation and dead times and youre good to go, further tuning is done by sliders at 500rpm increments, has timing advance/retard at 500rpm increments, airflow sliders, VE compensation(for those running strokers) and evernthing else you could think of. its also a built in logging apparatus, which is light years better than any other logger out on the market. with this, you can seriously slap on 1600cc injectors, dial them in and be on your merry way with no effects whatosever, it has the ability to run larger injectors like theyre stock, so no sluggish effect since you dialed in the dead time.

did i mention the 4g63 can handle 500hp without touching the motor internally? it can do 25psi on stock head gasked and head studs, though most swap those out for cometic gasket and arp's. i didnt, and never had any problems, then again, i only ran 20psi on a 16g, but ive seen 26 on a 60trim on stock everything.

if you want cheap speed and dont care about looks or reliability(even though most are relaible, its the person doing the mods that ****s them up), go with a DSM, once you do, you will never look at anything else the same way. it truly is the dark side of automotive modification.

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Just buy an Aspire and fix it up. Little on the car, rest to fix 'er up. I'm surprised 94 DD 4.6L didn't mention it. What is it, B16 or B18 engine swap from a Mazda, then put in some N2O or something? That'd be awesome. Rollin' 'round on some donuts. Chrome go-cart wheels. Bling-bling.

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JWhat is it, B16 or B18 engine swap from a Mazda, then put in some N2O or something?
i think youre thinking of the KZLE(or something to that effect) swap. B16/B18 is honduh crap.

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I can't remember, but I thought it was something to that effect that was posted by him. I'll look it up.

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The swap for a Festiva/Aspire is a Mercury Capri B6T (1.6L turbo charged) or the Mazda 323 with the B6T. Very, very, very easy swap! (Or be a real man and put a SHO motor in a Festiva and make a "SHOgun". )

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The reason I didn't mention an Aspire is he was looking for a factory turbo'd car to start with.

One thing to keep in mind with factory turbo cars that are cheap.... usually the turbo is shot and sucking oil. Especially in a "sporty" type car where you know it has been dogged.

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Hey man, if you look at ebay there are 3 Xr4ti's right now, one buy it now $1000 located in VA, the other buy it now $1300 in MI, just a little FYI.

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thanx for the heads up...looking at 'em now

someone locally here mentioned a dsm...but DSMs are ghey and totally NOT what I would drive :P again, this is a "FUN" car project with no "real" goals...just something to fart around with...

and Thomas, I know you are in love with DSMs, but again, I would never drive one as I have never been fond of 'em...and, there are too many of 'em around here as is. This fieta/festiva idea could be a hoot though, although I don't want to do a motor swap, that just expanded the options even more.
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