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Can the V6 1960's Mustang move well?

So I was wondering if the 1960's Mustangs with the v6 could accelerate well?
I'm only thinking in advance here but I would like to get something older, fun and possible to use as a daily driver. At least for a year of fun. I live in LA where the weather is most of the time is nice and when it's not, it's only a little bit of rain.
I have been thinking of things like 60's Mustangs, Torino's, Cougars, 60's-70's Chevelle, Corvette, Camaro/Firebird, and even things like some of the older Datsun's Z's. I had seen most of these with versions in great condition for $5-9 grand. I'd like to get a convertible or T-top but in some models those are higher priced and you would have to sacrifice the V8 to a V6 just to get it in that price range (Mustang). Two of them I am really contemplating are the 60's Mustangs (convertible if possible) and 78-82 Corvettes (T-Tops).
So does anyone with any of those cars mentioned or has a classic car in that price range have any advice on what too look for and what not to get? I am realistically thinking here that a car from the 60's with a great running powertrain, straight body and no/less computer controled stuff would be just as reliable at this point to my tbird which has been driven hard and sucks gas like a hummer. So while I am young I want to have a fun older car for at least a year.

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IIRC the 60's mustang has a I6 engine.
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IIRC the 60's mustang has a I6 engine.
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They do okay, but the I6 isn't a high rever (in early Fords), decent low end torque, smooth, and reliable, pretty low on the HP ratings too.

My 63 Falcon came with a I6, it has a 302 in it now, so I haven't driven one recently, and the last I6 car I drove was an 80 Fairmont with the 200. Both my Fairmont with the 255 V8 and my Zephyr with the 302 would stomp it, around town it was okay, but mountain passes it sucked, merging on the interstate, etc. And that was when the speed limit was lower.

Probably wouldn't be a bad cruiser but you would probably be wanting for more. A manual tranny might help as well.

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The 200 I6 sucks. the 250 is better. And I think that anyplace a 250 will fit, a 300 I6 will fit. And the 300 is a great engine!


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My uncle had a Comet with an I-6. Nice engine for just cruising, and wont die, it'll do just fine as long as you dont expect too much from it in performance.

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The 200 I6 sucks. the 250 is better. And I think that anyplace a 250 will fit, a 300 I6 will fit. And the 300 is a great engine!
Well I wouldn't be looking to put a V6 in, just wondering because the cars that come with it are cheaper obviously then the V8's. So it would be more in my price range. Although when there is a 289 available it is reasonably priced. The 302 and 351's of course are much more money then the others mentioned. Would be cool to put something like a 90's 4.6 DOHC in the 60's mustang. Maybe that would be a project if I kept the thing longer then a year or so.

I have been seeing nice corvettes 70's-early 80's in the 8 grand range. I think I may lean towards one of them if I do pursue this down the road. Anyone here have one of them? My uncle had a red 78 when I was a kid and I just remember it being a sweet car. I know some are under powered (ratings and I even beat one at the track once) but it's a chevy 350 which would have almost unlimited options.

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In the Mustangs the 289's usually bring more than the 302's simply because of the years they were available (65-67 I believe). I don't think there was a year that had both the 289 and/or the 302 available. at least not in the Mustang.


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I like stangs, and I'd love to have an old stang 'vert, if it where me, I'd really look for a V8, or do an engine swap....but a 70s 'vette...those are neat looking cars.

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For some reason I see 64-66 stangs more available now then the 67-70. But I guess more of what's out there in the 67+'s are V8's then what's out there for the -66's. And the 67+'s almost seem more desirable these days and especially in the fast back version. I guess it will be all in the test drive to see what she really feels like when you step on it. I wouldn't be looking to do any swap when I get it. Just something to buy and enjoy for a year. So maybe a V6 would be good and then save up and get a V8 version later on if I wanted to one still. Maybe my wanting an older car fase would be over then, maybe not.

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Since we're talking early Mustangs...

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And to keep it on subject... I think the 6 cylinder suspension is lighter than the V8 suspension, to include control arms/springs/shocks/brakes/etc. But it has been MANY years since I was up on all that info. You might want to double check that before you look into doing a swap.

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Heh, my first car was a 1964 Fairlane, with the 260 V8, and 3 speed on the collum, which we later put on the floor.

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As it has been said already, there were no 60's v-6 mustangs. I do know of at least 1 v-8 mustang that moves o.k.

This is an old photo of my 66 hipo. It's in the garage right now. Do you think the neighbors would mind me cranking that old 289 up right now at 11:35 p.m.? I know those 3.89 gears still work...

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Oh ya those 289s can move. Ive heard about my dads old '67 coupe. And there was no V-6 stang till the 80s, the 3.8.

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Yeah, I mean the I6 I guess. Just was wondering if the smaller optioned engine stangs of the 60's can at least accelerate well enough to drive in today's normal traffic. Thanks for all the talk so far. And the pics of your cars are awesome. I saw a blue late 60's coupe today with a for sale sign on it. Not ready yet but was a nice looking car.
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Yeah, I mean the I6 I guess. Just was wondering if the smaller optioned engine stangs of the 60's can at least accelerate well enough to drive in today's normal traffic.
Just to put it into perspective, here's something to compare it to:

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Weight = Approx. 2600 – 3200 lbs
Engine: 200 cu in I6
Horsepower = 120 @ 4400 rpm (approximately 96 hp SAE net horsepower)
Torque = 190 @ 2400

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Weight = 2564 lbs
Engine: 2.0L I4
Horsepower = 110 @ 5000 rpm
Torque = 125 @ 3750

So the I6 Mustang is definitely drivable!!

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The I6 can be built to run pretty well. Lots of options to get it to go fast. I know adding a 4 barrel, intake, and late model split exhaust manifolds are good for around 60Hp on my '79 F100 with the 300 six.

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In the Mustangs the 289's usually bring more than the 302's simply because of the years they were available (65-67 I believe). I don't think there was a year that had both the 289 and/or the 302 available. at least not in the Mustang.
1968 model year was the last for the 289 (2 barrel carb available only), and was also the first year for the 302. This applies to many 1968 Ford and Mercury models, including Mustang and Cougar.


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The I6 can be built to run pretty well. Lots of options to get it to go fast. I know adding a 4 barrel, intake, and late model split exhaust manifolds are good for around 60Hp on my '79 F100 with the 300 six.

check out www.fordsix.com for some good inline info.

The 250 and 300 can be modded with the intake and 4 bbl, but the 200 is stuck with the one piece casting.

For a driver/cruising car the 200 is a good engine, very reliable (goes for all I-6s) and easier on gas.

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why not go balls out and get a big block
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Another good source from mustang monthly on a mustang six build-up:

http://www.mustangmonthly.com/techar...perform_guide/

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Thanks for all the comments and advice everyone. I think I am going to now save up and get one sometime early summer. I am going with it I guess because if I can find one in great daily driver condition it would just be my best choice for a classic, reliable, and economy efficient car.
I checked out the sites and they have good info. I even signed up on fordsix.com.
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The 250 and 300 can be modded with the intake and 4 bbl, but the 200 is stuck with the one piece casting.

For a driver/cruising car the 200 is a good engine, very reliable (goes for all I-6s) and easier on gas.

A little correction for you, the 144, 170, 200, 250 are all the same basic engine other than the obivious cubic inch differences and are are car engines. The 240 and 300 are truck engines. All of the first group of engines have a one barrel intake manifold that is cast as part of the head and cannot be removed.
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Hmm, I thought I saw a listing for the new intake for the 250 before. But, guess I was wrong.

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It is a modified intake that bolts over the head casting. You have to drill two holes in the origional intake for the tow extra carbs that bolt to the aftermarket peice. This gets you three 1brrl carbs and better fuel distribution to all cylinders.

If you had a really hot cammed out 6, you could adapt three deuces to the intake.

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if nothining else get ahold ofa 300 ,buy the offy cam and intake , 390cfm 4 bl , ought to be fun

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