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N/A rwhp/rwtq numbers thread...

We've all heard (and ourselves asked) what effect different mods will have on our cars.
This thread is for 4.6L SOHC 2v N/A rear wheel horsepower & torque numbers starting from stock and working up.

Stock and light mods resulting in 199 rear wheel hp and less (all numbers are rwhp/rwtq underless otherwise specified):
(most have Tune, Dual Exhaust, Cold Air Intake, and Under-Drive Pulleys)


Blade Runner made 161/233 with Dual Exhaust.
Porkchop made 170/234 with U/D's & Duals.
Mgino96tbird46 made 172/240 with only a CAI.
Dubbsy made 179/244 with a Tune & No Mufflers.
CometGSR mad 179/223 with a Tune & U/D's.
NetKeym made 180/213 with a CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, & PI Intake.
BlackCat94 made 180/228 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, & 80mm MAF.
MustangMag made 182/241 with a Tune, C&L Upper, and CAI.
gagfish made 183/246 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, Duals, & 80mm MAF.
FraudDog made 185/258 with a Tune, Duals, & MT.
tbird462002 made 188/241 with a Tune, CAI, Duals, & GT MAF.
The_Ghost made 189/24? with a Tune, CAI, & 80mm MAF.
95LX made 190/251 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, & 75mm MAF.
Porkchop made 191/240 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, & Duals.
RobertP made 192/255 with a Tune, Cat-Back, & 80mm MAF.
theterminator93 made 196/254 with a Tune, GT CAI, 80mm MAF, & PI Intake.
MustangMag made 198/244 with a Tune, C&L, CAI, PI Cams, Duals, and Shorties.
Mgino96tbird46 made 198/238 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, PI Intake, & Cat-Backs.


Next group is mods resulting in 200-249 rwhp:
(All previous mods plus lot of PI Intake & Cams, Shorty Exhaust Headers, and Aftermarket Cams)


KrAzyT made 200/244 with a Tune, GT CAI, 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Head Swap (including Intake).
94SCTBIRD made 200/240 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, GT MAF, and PnP'd PI Intake.
TBird9624 made 203/??? with a Superchips Tune (I question this one).
Swang made 205/227 with CAI, GT TB, Duals, GT MAF, & MT.
Tony made 205/??? with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, Duals, MAF, PI Intake & Cams.
Henry74 made 209/??? with a PI Headswap (including Intake) & Duals.
cougar1997xr7 made 209/??? with a Tune, CAI, Duals, MAF, & PI Intake.
MattsLE97 made 209/??? with a Tune, CAI, MAF, PI Intake & Cams.
bgck7 made 210/??? with a Tune, CAI, Duals, & PI Cams.
theterminator93 made 212/280 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Intake & Cams.
FunktasticLucky made 212/260 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, 90mm MAF, Bullitt Intake, & PI Headswap.
theosan made 213/283 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, & PI Cams.
MustangMag made 215/??? with a Tune, C&L CAI, Duals, Shorty Headers, & SHM2730 Cams.
IM001 made 225/255 with a GT PI Engine, Duals, & Headers.
whitecoug made 228/285 with a Tune, GT CAI, TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Intake/Cams, Shorty Headers, & PnP NPI Heads.
Traveler made 223/258 with a Tune, GT CAI, TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, & PI Headswap (including Intake).
MustangMag made 228/??? with a Tune, C&L CAI, Duals, Shorty Headers, SHM2730 Cams, & PI Intake.
Anderson made 228/268 with a MT Baseline GT PI Engine.
VicRattlehead made 229/276 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 90mm MAF, & Mustang PI Engine.
JR Tigerstar made 229/272 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 70mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, & PI Headswap (including Intake).
Basskid made 231/280 with a Tune, GT CAI, Duals, PI Headswap (including Intake).
94TchikinV8 made 233/268 with a Tune, CAI, Duals, GT MAF, PI Block & Heads, XE262AH Cams, & Brain Ported Headers.
Dirtybird46 made 236/276 with a Tune, CAI, Duals, GT MAF, PI Headswap (including Intake), & TFS Upper.
ShadowDragon made 236/286 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, Duals, PI Headswap (including Intake), & PnP Upper.
1999SilverGT made 238/271 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, GT PI engine.
white 97 lx made 239/266 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Headswap (including Intake), & Accufab Upper.
Blue98GT made 239/286 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, SVO TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Cams, & SVO NPI Heads.
synister281 made 239/253 with a GT CAI/MAF, Duals, MT, & Stock PI GT Engine.
Blueoval made 243/273 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, GT MAF, PnP Upper, Duals, SHM2730 Cams, & FRPP Shorties.
BIG_PETE made 243/281 with a Tune, C&L CAI, BBK TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Intake, XE262H Cams, & Renegade NPI Heads.
borf42 made 244/285 with a Tune, C&L CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, MT, & PI Headswap.
96_Goldbird made 245/??? with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, PI Intake, XE268H Cams, Renegade Heads, Kooks, & PnP Intake.
EricZ made 245/??? with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, Duals, MAF, & PI Swap (including Intake).
fwd_killa made 245/287 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, Upper, GT MAF, Cat-Back, & GT PI Engine.
evilwunn made 245/289 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 70mm BBK TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Headswap (including Intake), & Headers.
JeffTBird93 made 247/241 with a Tune, CAI, Duals, GT MAF, PI Intake, & Stage2 Heads & Cams.

Next group is mods resulting in 250-274 rwhp:
(All previous mods and PI Engines, PI Headswaps, Aftermarket Cams, and Mid to Long Tube Exhaust Headers prevalent)


Anderson made 252/272 with a Tune, GT CAI, BBK 75mm TB, GT MAF, PI Heads & Intake, Dragon Plenum, & N-22 Cams.
GPINTAURO made 252/292 with a Tune, CAI, GMS TB, Duals, GT MAF, & GT PI engine.
02auto made 253/291 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, PnP TB, GT MAF, PI engine, 1/2" Spacer, & Long-Tubes.
synister281 made 254/278 with a Tune, CAI, CL MAF, Duals, Cat-Back, MT, & PI GT Engine.
1MTNCAT made 254/316 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, 90mm MAF, Bullitt Intake, PI Headswap, JBA Shorties, & 30lb Injectors.
theterminator93 made 255/290 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, Duals, GT MAF, PI Intake, Stage 2 Heads & Cams, & Brain Ported Headers.
kal00gt made 255/295 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, Duals, C&L 80mm MAF, PI Engine, MT, & Long-Tubes.
98Coop made 257/298 with a Tune, MT, GT PI Engine, & Long-Tube Headers.
cw5billwade made 259/281 with a Tune, CAI, C&L CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, 85mm MAF, & PI Headswap (including Intake).
CableguyJJS3 made 260/295 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PnP'd PI Heads/Intake w/XE270AH Cams, & JBA Shorties.
paintme205 made 260/??? with a Tune, GT CAI, 75mm CL TB & Upper, Duals, LMAF, PI Headswap (with Intake), Kooks, & no P/S or A/C
Anderson made 263/281 with a Tune, GT CAI, BBK 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Heads & Intake, N-22 Cams, & Hi-Flow Cats.
DCBigpimpin made 264/301 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, Duals, Accu 75mm TB, CL Upper, FRPP 80mm MAF, GT PI Engine, & MAC Long-Tubes.
SM99GT made 265/302 with a Tune, GT CAI/TB, Duals w/Cat-Back, 4cc Pistons, PnP PI Heads/Cams/Intake, & BBK Long-Tubes.
MustangMag made 266/??? with a Tune, C&L CAI, Duals, PI Heads & Intake, SHM2730 Cams, Milled Heads, & Long-Tubes.
Dynotune04 made 267/301 with a Tune, CAI, 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, PnP'd PI Engine, & Long-Tubes.
Texas01GT made 267/308 with a Tune, BBK CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Engine, & Long-Tubes.
Mgino96tbird46 made 268/290 with a Tune, 93 octane, U/D's, PI Intake, PI cams, 38cc Trick Flow heads, & Cat-Backs.
Tannerneighbors made 268/326 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Engine, & Long-Tubes.
bigmike83 made 269/301 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Engine, & Long-Tubes.
e5shea made 270/310 with a Tune, BBK CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Engine, & MAC Long-Tubes.
arcangl made 271/313 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, BBK MAF, PnP'd PI Engine, & Kooks.
RichOrd06 made 272/285 with a Tune, GT CAI/MAF, Duals, CompCams, & PI GT Engine.
Firescout211 made 272/292 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, DSS Heads/Intake, Stage2 Cams, & Kooks.
Anderson made 273/291 with a Tune, CAI, BBK 75mm TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, & PI Headswap w/N-22 Cams.
Stuckinkaos07 made 273/295 with a Tune, JLT, U/D's, 75mm TB, LMAF, PI Intake, Stage2 Heads/Cams, & Kooks.
nickmckinney made 273/299 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, 90mm MAF, PI Intake, Stage2 Cams, PnP'd NPI Heads, & Shorties.
Floordford made 273/309 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Headswap (including Intake), & Long-Tubes.


Next group is mods resulting in 275-299 rwhp:
(All previous mods with Specialized Headwork (Port-n-Polish), mostly Stage 2 cams, aftermarket Intakes & Heads appear)


H.O.-BIRD made 275/289 with a Tune, CAI, 75mm TB, Duals, C&L MAF, PI Heads/Intake w/XE270AH Cams, & Kooks.
QkTbird made 276/301 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, MAF, PnP'd PI Heads/Intake w/Stage2 Cams, & JBA's.
white 97 lx made 278/286 with a Tune, GT CAI, Accufab TB, Duals, GT MAF, Stage 2 Heads/Cams w/Bullitt Intake, & Kooks.
TJs98GT made 279/297 with a Tune, GT CAI, 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, RAM Intake, PI Headswap w/Stage2 Cams, & Long-Tubes.
Mgino96tbird46 made 279/310 with a Tune, E85, U/D's, PI Intake, PI cams, 38cc Trick Flow heads, plenum, & Cat-Backs
Winters98GT made 279/314 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PnP'd PI Headswap, & Long-Tubes.
Stuckinkaos07 made 281/317 with a Tune, CAI, 75mm TB, Duals, U/D's, PI intake, MMR PnP'd Heads w/Stage2 Cams, 39lb, & Kooks.
DrewSStanG made 283/289 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, C&L MAF, PI Engine w/XE262AH Cams, & Long-Tubes.
JeffTBird93 made 283/295 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Intake, & Stage2 Heads/Cams.
bossman429 made 283/296 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, Plenum, PI Engine w/VT Stage 2 Cams, & Shorties.
01Steeda made 284/289 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, GT TB, Duals, GT MAF, PI Engine w/Stage2 Heads/Cams, & Long-Tubes.
bk_cauley made 289/311 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PI Engine w/PnP Heads, Stage2 Cams, & Long-Tubes.
brian_gatti made 290/308 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, GT MAF, Plenum, Stage2 Heads w/blower Cams, MT, & Long-Tubes.
Hurstmeister made 292/298 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, Duals, 75mm TB, 80mm MAF, PI Intake/Headswap shaved .027", & Long-Tubes.
navarro98GT made 292/307 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, MAF, PnP'd PI Headswap w/Stage2 Cams, & Long-Tubes.
Anderson made 297/279 with a Tune, CAI, 75mm TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Headswap w/N-22 Cams, & Shorties.
Steve03 made 298/313 with a Tune, GT CAI, U/D's, 70mm TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PI Engine w/XE270AH Cams, & Long-Tubes.
johnr2001 made 298/315 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PnP'd PI Engine w/Stage2 Cams, & Long-Tubes.

The Elusive 300 rwhp and up group:
(Higher Compression Aftermarket Heads & Engine Parts, Specialized Work, & other HP Tricks a MUST at this point!)


Trevor04GT made 300/309 with a Tune, JLT CAI, U/D's, PnP TB, Duals, GT MAF, PnP'd Heads w/Stage2 Cams, & Long-Tubes.
bluestang96 made 300/320 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PnP'd PI Headswap w/Stage1 Cams, & Long-Tubes.
GusGT98 made 302/318 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PnP'd PI Headswap w/Stage1 Cams, & Long-Tubes.
Roger77 made 302/322 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PnP'd PI Headswap w/XE270AH Cams, & Long-Tubes.
IDoMyOwnRacing made 303/311 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, Accu 75mm TB, Duals, CL 80mm MAF, TF Upper, Patriot Stage2 Heads w/XE274H Cams, MT, & Long-Tubes.
03GTMO made 303/288 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, TB, Duals, 80mm MAF, PnP'd PI Engine w/XE270AH Cams, Shorties, & Electric WP.
mild2002gt made 304/323 with a Tune, CL CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, CL Upper, Duals, GT PI Engine, PnP Heads w/Blower Cams, & Hooker Long-Tubes.
Rare66gt made 305/??? with a Tune, CAI, U/D's BBK 75mm TB, Duals w/Cat-Backs, CL Upper, LMAF 90mm, PI Headswap w/XE268H Cams (including Intake), MT, & BBK Long-Tubes.
BLKsteeda made 310/325 with Tune, CAI, U/D's, Accu TB/Plenum, GT MAF, PI Engine w/MPH Stage 2.5 Heads/VT Stage1 Cams, & Bassani Mid-Lengths.
Sable made 309/320 with a Tune, CAI, U/D's, 75mm TB, Duals, GT MAF, TrickFlow Intake, Patriot Heads w/XE262H Cams, & Long-Tubes.
[email protected] made 312/336 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PI Upper, TrickFlow Heads/Intake w/Stage1 Cams, & Long-Tubes w/No-Cats.
MustangMag made 314/292 with a Tune, C&L CAI, Duals, Edelbrock Carb Conversion, PnP'd NPI Heads w/SHM2730 Cams, & Long-Tubes.
MaddMartigan made 320/360 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PI Intake, TrickFlow Heads w/Stage2 Cams, & Long-Tubes.

r429460 made 324/329 with a Tune, Big bore block, 3.5" intake tube, BBK TB, Typhoon intake, TFS heads and cams, 13:1 c.r., Eagle crank and rods, Kooks, DD 3800 converter, 4.10 gears, Bauman trans. controller and E85.
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[email protected] made 336/335 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, PI Upper, Trickflow Heads/Cams/Intake, & Long-Tubes.
Johnny Langston made 340/337 with a Tune, CAI, TB, Duals, MAF, Bullitt Intake, Renegade Heads w/270AH Cams, & Kooks Headers.

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I'll see about starting a thread with a list of all the rwhp/rwtq numbers with accompanying mods.

Obviously, no two dynos/conditions are equal ... but it still will give a good idea of what to expect from what.

BTW, the chart is strictly N/A (sorry Ron . When I post it, I hope the Mods put it wherever y'all feel it would fit best and I will maintain it based on feedback!

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That's cool Rick. Thanks for taking the time to put a chart like that together. Is the chart also limited to 4.6L engines? 2 Valve or 4 Valve? ... or any other limiting factors?

We'll figure out a good place to put it.

Ah, the N/A limitation would explain the 200 HP range. So Stuckinkaos is off the list.

... and some day in the far distant future GM will sit atop the list!

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That's cool Rick. Thanks for taking the time to put a chart like that together. Is the chart also limited to 4.6L engines? 2 Valve or 4 Valve? ... or any other limiting factors?

We'll figure out a good place to put it.

Ah, the N/A limitation would explain the 200 HP range. So Stuckinkaos is off the list.

... and some day in the far distant future GM will sit atop the list!
So TM, why would Stuckinkaos be off the list. He runs N/A on a stock PI shortblock 4.6 and thats what his numbers were N/A? Not on a power adder.

We're not talking 4.6 based 2V stroked to 5.0 motors or 4 valve motors here I don't believe. Actual 4.6 2V's.

Otherwise comparison numbers would mean nothing.

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So TM, why would Stuckinkaos be off the list. He runs N/A on a stock PI shortblock 4.6 and thats what his numbers were N/A? Not on a power adder.

We're not talking 4.6 based 2V stroked to 5.0 motors or 4 valve motors here I don't believe. Actual 4.6 2V's.

Otherwise comparison numbers would mean nothing.
I see where he made the 281/317 dyno pull however, he didn's specify if that was an N/A or nitrous pull and the converter unlocked during the pull so the numbers are invalid since it wasn't a full pull.

The only recent N/A numbers I found for him were the 273 HP and 295 torque numbers from March of last year.

Aside from that, the only other reason I would say he couldn't go on the list is that he's selling the car and moving to Japan. The car and those numbers will soon belong to someone else.

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I see where he made the 281/317 dyno pull however, he didn's specify if that was an N/A or nitrous pull and the converter unlocked during the pull so the numbers are invalid since it wasn't a full pull.

The only recent N/A numbers I found for him were the 273 HP and 295 torque numbers from March of last year.

Aside from that, the only other reason I would say he couldn't go on the list is that he's selling the car and moving to Japan. The car and those numbers will soon belong to someone else.
It's a 2v N/A chart.
There are multiple entries for some members here as they modded their vehicles (like Brandon).
The only gripe you might have is that some of the entries are from Mustang boards and "magazine builds".
I realize that the 'Stang builds show higher numbers because of the lower drive line loss with a manual transmission, but you still get the jest of the mods & resulting rwhp increases.

Oh, and I don't have any dyno-specific info (type of dyno, tc locked/unlocked, conditions, etc)...

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I see where he made the 281/317 dyno pull however, he didn's specify if that was an N/A or nitrous pull and the converter unlocked during the pull so the numbers are invalid since it wasn't a full pull.

The only recent N/A numbers I found for him were the 273 HP and 295 torque numbers from March of last year.

Aside from that, the only other reason I would say he couldn't go on the list is that he's selling the car and moving to Japan. The car and those numbers will soon belong to someone else.
LOL TM you must of fell off the cart and hit your head ROFL ;-). Why would he be spraying it and it only put down NA numbers. Last year with the Nitrous it put down in the vicinity of 370-380 on the power adder. Dan at Pro Dyno did the NA pulls this spring. The runs were NA up to where the converter unlocked so those numbers are good to that point. Remember, we are looking at NA combo's here.

Regardless of where the car goes, it still has the stated mods and accompanying numbers. If Jeff was to post he had similiar results with it when he had it albeit a slight bit more.

Regardless, its something to compare to for those with similiar mods.

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LOL TM you must of fell off the cart and hit your head ROFL ;-). Why would he be spraying it and it only put down NA numbers. Last year with the Nitrous it put down in the vicinity of 370-380 on the power adder. Dan at Pro Dyno did the NA pulls this spring. The runs were NA up to where the converter unlocked so those numbers are good to that point. Remember, we are looking at NA combo's here.

Regardless of where the car goes, it still has the stated mods and accompanying numbers. If Jeff was to post he had similiar results with it when he had it albeit a slight bit more.

Regardless, its something to compare to for those with similiar mods.
LOL Well, my car has given me mild whiplash from time to time. May be that's my problem ...

Regardless if it was an N/A or a Nitrous pull it wasn't a full pull due to the aformentioned mechanical issue. You say it was an N/A pull so I guess it was...

Either way, I really don't know or care how the numbers were made or under what conditions. I'm just pointing out the questions I have with the numbers.

You or anyone else can read into or out of those numbers whatever you like.

I'm just a monkey hanging out in a tree. Whatching the N/A cars battle it out for bragging rights....

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It's a 2v N/A chart.
There are multiple entries for some members here as they modded their vehicles (like Brandon).
The only gripe you might have is that some of the entries are from Mustang boards and "magazine builds".
I realize that the 'Stang builds show higher numbers because of the lower drive line loss with a manual transmission, but you still get the jest of the mods & resulting rwhp increases.

Oh, and I don't have any dyno-specific info (type of dyno, tc locked/unlocked, conditions, etc)...
No worries. If it's a 2V N/A chart demonstrating what various configurations will yeild then it's up to the person reading the chart to know the unspoken/unlisted differences. It should be apparent to anyone with a lick of sense that a 2V N/A Mustang number will be better for obvious reasons.

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Couple of cars missing from the 300+ club. Kdanner made 301 RWHP with his old SVO headed/intake setup, do not recall the torque though. I am missing from the list, 348 RWHP, 368 Torque. Similar to JL but with a 5.0L Big-Bore and plastic PI intake.

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My HP was actually 254 according to my dyno chart in 2004. Also include the Bullitt Intake and TB.

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I see several entries on there for me, but I've only had the car dyno'd twice (and never while stock). Once at 212/280 and recently at 255/290. Plus I never had just a tune on the car - when I got the first tune the PI intake and GT MAF/intake went on all at once.

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Couple of cars missing from the 300+ club. Kdanner made 301 RWHP with his old SVO headed/intake setup, do not recall the torque though. I am missing from the list, 348 RWHP, 368 Torque. Similar to JL but with a 5.0L Big-Bore and plastic PI intake.
You don't have a 4.6L; does KDanner have a 4.6L SOHC N/A? (I didn't include stroker kits that change the displacement of the engine)

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I see several entries on there for me, but I've only had the car dyno'd twice (and never while stock). Once at 212/280 and recently at 255/290. Plus I never had just a tune on the car - when I got the first tune the PI intake and GT MAF/intake went on all at once.
Well, you must have said something at some point - I sure didn't pull those numbers out of my you-know-where! I can remove those entries if you wish...

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Here is an issue u list all the hp numbers but the type of Dyno plays a big role like my 192 rwhp ran 14.4 and mgino 198 his with 198 ran slower than stock point is the Dyno type should be listed as mine was on a Dyno jet and Michael some other crap that lies, point is this is not a proper comparison, and I did not have duals I had dynomax catback

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Here is an issue u list all the hp numbers but the type of Dyno plays a big role like my 192 rwhp ran 14.4 and mgino 198 his with 198 ran slower than stock point is the Dyno type should be listed as mine was on a Dyno jet and Michael some other crap that lies, point is this is not a proper comparison, and I did not have duals I had dynomax catback
I said that right at the beginning that this was gonna happen, and you cemented what I said in place - didn't take 8 hours! lol

Robert, relax - ppl get the jest and should know that there are many different dynos (such as with and without Eddy brake), & different air temp, altitudes, torque converters, rear gear, tire sizes, etc, etc.

My particular graph was taken at 50' above sea-level, 70* degrees fahrenheit, on a Mustang Dyno with Eddy and some other drag device built-in to the machine. But how am I supposed to have access to all that info for all those entries? And most people wouldn't care or understand all those other confusing numbers, anyways!

You're blown anyways, why you criticizing us wimpy N/A guys? lol
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I don't care I'm just stating facts as a mustang Dyno reads low, regardless I don't care either just saying its gonna be tough for people to read and compare when there Dyno number are apples to oranges Dyno numbers only work if stay on the same Dyno every time

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Well like I said I never had my car on the dyno until last year, so I wouldn't have any numbers for other combos than the two I mentioned. Where those other numbers you have came from is beyond me, since they never came from me.

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Well like I said I never had my car on the dyno until last year, so I wouldn't have any numbers for other combos than the two I mentioned. Where those other numbers you have came from is beyond me, since they never came from me.
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Well, you must have said something at some point - I sure didn't pull those numbers out of my you-know-where! I can remove those entries if you wish...
KDanner had a 4.6. I do not have a stroker kit. You need to specify 4.6. A 0.03 overbore moves these engines to 4.7L which many of the 300 RWHP cars have. How do they count and not me? My car is over-bored 0.15.

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KDanner had a 4.6. I do not have a stroker kit. You need to specify 4.6. A 0.03 overbore moves these engines to 4.7L which many of the 300 RWHP cars have. How do they count and not me? My car is over-bored 0.15.
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How many inches are you running? So you have an actual 4.6 bored over 0.15? A 5.0 or big bore block is not a 4.6 at least in my estimation regardless of how its derived (Bore or Bore and stroke). I believe the purpose here is to look at comparable combinations with BASIC 4.6L engines and bolt ons.

You have a great combo and it works well as you've proven but how do you justify comparing a motor approximately 20 cubic inches less in comparison. At just 1HP per cubic inch that motor would make 20 more HP than a regular 4.6 at a minimum. A lot more than a typical .020 clean up on a stock overbored block.

However, that being said, you make a valid point and I would like to see an additional list of the NA cars with the larger cube motors (Big Bore or stroked to 5.0) motors and bolt ons. That would be awesome to look at as well. That way the rest of us could dream LOL!!!!

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Thanks.

Though this one is one is still in there... "theterminator93 made 196/254 with a Tune, GT CAI, 80mm MAF, & PI Intake."

Maybe those numbers came from this? It's the only post I ever made which contained those numbers.

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