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Oxygen Injection???

Isn't the whole point of nitrous to get more O2 into the engine? I know the answer is yes....just making a point and a possible idea. If the air we breathe is 78% or so nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 1% Other gasses, then there is obviously room for improvement to get O2 into the engine.

I have a smaller 20 lb. or so O2 tank laying around from an Oxy Acetylene torch. What affect would it have if thes was plumbed into the intake system before the MAF so that it would still be measured by the EEC? I figure that you would get a noticable increase in power just like nitrous but just not as much. Also by adjudting the output PSI you could control how much pure O2 is entering.

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The reason for putting 2 parts nitrogen with 1 part oxygen is to make the oxygen stable enough to put in your motor. If you try to inject pure oxygen, you'll probably put plenty of holes in the pistons at least, it just burns too hot.
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Well, KD, I was trying to be nice about it, but you pretty much hit the nail on the head!!!!!!!!!!
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No I am not trying to build a bomb. I plainly stated that the posting was an idea that I was curious about. If I was going to just do it I would have never posted anything about it. The whole point of posting it was to just find out if it was a possibility at all.
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If it was that easy, don't you think someone else would have done it already?
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possibly, but not everybody has a spare oxygen tank just laying around either, but I am glad I asked. I know that too much O2 could burn a piston but for some reason I didn't put 2 and 2 together.
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I knew a guy who tried oxy-injection on a lawnmower engine.

The pistons were welded to the block, when all was said and done. All this from it running for ~3 seconds.

Its a bad idea.
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How about Hydrogen peroxide? Nitrous is N2O, two nitrogens and one oxygen. Hydrogen peroxide in liquid state is two parts Oxygen and one part hydrogen.

If there were a way to stabilize hydrogen peroxide until it got compressed and then ignite the two oxygens along with the hydrogen and the gasoline, hmmmm I wonder how that would work.
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Just buy nitrous and call it a day!
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Isn't the whole point of nitrous to get more O2 into the engine? I know the answer is yes....just making a point and a possible idea. If the air we breathe is 78% or so nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 1% Other gasses, then there is obviously room for improvement to get O2 into the engine.

I have a smaller 20 lb. or so O2 tank laying around from an Oxy Acetylene torch. What affect would it have if thes was plumbed into the intake system before the MAF so that it would still be measured by the EEC? I figure that you would get a noticable increase in power just like nitrous but just not as much. Also by adjudting the output PSI you could control how much pure O2 is entering.

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One of the effects is the surplus oxygen (augmented by the additional fuel delivered by the system). However, there is also the extreme cooling affect of the nitrous oxide on the intake tract that increases the combustion chamber's ability and efficiency, thus the requirement for additional fuel.

Raw oxygen would not do all of the above, it would just lean out the engine (if not augmented).

Good math on the 78/21/1 gasses. Are you a scuba diver?

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It'd be easier, cheaper, safer, and most likely more effective to get a nitrous kit. Plus you don't have to go to a welding supply store to refill your tank.
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