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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 12-14-2004, 11:02 PM Thread Starter
 
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Question Nos, Nx, Zex????

I am looking to get a nitrous oxidie kit in my car and was wondering which company I should go for. I am leaning more towards NX, and there is no particular reason why. But if there is any difference in who I should choose let me know. And also I'm planning on running about 100shot NX setup which will be professionally done. But I was wondering what do I need to buy or replace before I have the bottle put in. Do I need a new fuel pump, etc? And the guy at the place I went to said that having a plastic intake could be a problem if I run a 125 or higher but it would cost $2,000 to replace it. I told him I'm not paying 2g's for that, but do you think it will be harmful to run my 100 shot on the plastic intake? And by the way I have a '96 T-Bird 4.6L and I have decide to hit the nitrous because I got beat in a street race by a Honda today. And I dont care what it costs, but I have to make sure this NEVER happens again. I am so embarrassed. Thanks for your help.
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none of the above..hehe sorry..

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i would suggest a dry 100 shot, a good dry kit is zex.

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I think alot of people use the Zex dry kit because it is so simple to use. I personly have one and love it. If you are going to go with a 100 or bigger shot I suggest getting a new and better fuel pump.

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you want a dry kit because of the plastic manifold. with a wet kit you will have fuel puddle if you spray to soon and your intake will explode. do a seach to see some pics of grenaded intake from a wet kit that was sprayed to soon. NX is a great system but they only make wet kits. I have a zex dry kit, it for the 96-98 gt's but works fine on our cars cuz its the same engine. part # 82015 is what u want. you can find them used on corral.net for around $300. i bought mine brand new from summitracing.com for $500. Its very simple to install to, did it with my cousin in about 4 hours. I wouldnt recommend running anything more than a 75 shot without upgrading the fuel pump.


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you want a dry kit because of the plastic manifold. with a wet kit you will have fuel puddle if you spray to soon and your intake will explode. do a seach to see some pics of grenaded intake from a wet kit that was sprayed to soon. NX is a great system but they only make wet kits. I have a zex dry kit, it for the 96-98 gt's but works fine on our cars cuz its the same engine. part # 82015 is what u want. you can find them used on corral.net for around $300. i bought mine brand new from summitracing.com for $500. Its very simple to install to, did it with my cousin in about 4 hours. I wouldnt recommend running anything more than a 75 shot without upgrading the fuel pump.


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Same here. It's very easy to put in and you will see some pretty good pick up from it.

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you want a dry kit because of the plastic manifold. with a wet kit you will have fuel puddle if you spray to soon and your intake will explode. do a seach to see some pics of grenaded intake from a wet kit that was sprayed to soon.

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Wouldn't be talking about mine would ya?

ahh... thats the one .

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So will a new fuel pump keep ^ that from happening to my engine? I don't want a grenade in my intake, but will 100shot NX setup be a big risk?
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So will a new fuel pump keep ^ that from happening to my engine? I don't want a grenade in my intake, but will 100shot NX setup be a big risk?
fuel pump has nothing to do with that. an inadequate fuel pump will cause you to run extremely lean and you will destroy your motor. thats the reason we said to upgrade the pump. like i already said nx is good stuff but they only make wet kits. With a wet kit there is a very good chance you will blow your intake up. just get a dry kit, its much safer.

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And as long as you will be upgrading your fuel pump, you miay as well get a big one so if you decide to add more power down the line, you won't have to drop the fuel tank and put a new bigger pump in later. 255 lph would be optimal.

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I just put in a 255lph high pressure pump. Had the tank dropped, so for about $100, I figured why not, I'll need it later no matter what route I go.

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I was told that getting rid of the plastic intake would cost about $2Gs and I'm not looking to spend that much. Who makes the best Dry nitrous kits and does anyone know where in the Charlotte area of NC I can have it put on? Because Im an idiot when it comes to cars and there is no way I could do it myself.
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Like everyone is saying, the dry kit is gonna be safer, but a wet kit will generally give you better gains. However IMO to get the most out of a wet kit for our cars do to the intake, you'd want a higher stall torque converter so you can spray sooner of the line but still not be spraying at too low of rpm.
I am skirting on the "edge", but I found that spraying 2500-6200rpms worked best for me.

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I was told that getting rid of the plastic intake would cost about $2Gs and I'm not looking to spend that much. Who makes the best Dry nitrous kits and does anyone know where in the Charlotte area of NC I can have it put on? Because Im an idiot when it comes to cars and there is no way I could do it myself.
you could get rid of it for practically free, but you'd be putting a worse flowing intake on.




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does anyone know where in the Charlotte area of NC
there is a good place here in fayetteville but im guessing that you dont want to drive all the way down here. so pm joel, he lives down there and should be able to hook you up.
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I was told that getting rid of the plastic intake would cost about $2Gs and I'm not looking to spend that much. Who makes the best Dry nitrous kits and does anyone know where in the Charlotte area of NC I can have it put on? Because Im an idiot when it comes to cars and there is no way I could do it myself.
Good place in Charlotte?

yea, bout 20 miles north in Mooresville.....it's called my garage I might not be much for the physical work (disabled), but have installed nitrous before, and can tell/show you how to hook everything up.
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Joel, what would YOU reccomend for me? An NX setup or a dry kit?
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well after all the trouble that his wet kit gave him (multiple air boxes, an intake) he would probably tell you a zex dry kit. im pretty sure hes changing his setup over to a dry one.
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Joel, what would YOU reccomend for me? An NX setup or a dry kit?
i think the choice is a simple one. look at the pic above. that could happen with a nx or any wet kit. it wont happen with a dry kit. that was a good enough reason for me to go with a dry kit like aaron said a wet kit will give you slightly better power gains but with our plastic intake manifolds, its to much of a risk in my opinion.

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Joel, what would YOU reccomend for me? An NX setup or a dry kit?
Just as FordFanatic, and FDawg said, go with a dry kit. Not only does a dry system take away the risk of blowing an intake, and the associated cost of repairs. But, you also are able to use the nitrous off the line (you will definatly need slicks or drag radials for doing this though) With a dry system fuel pressure is extremely important, you will want to upgrade your fuel pump to a 255lph pump, and put in an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to bump fuel pressure while running the nitrous, to prevent severe damage to the motor.
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With a dry system fuel pressure is extremely important, you will want to upgrade your fuel pump to a 255lph pump, and put in an adjustable fuel pressure regulator to bump fuel pressure while running the nitrous, to prevent severe damage to the motor.
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