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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-11-2005, 06:48 PM Thread Starter
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Talking O2 on my car

I a going to be testing running pure oxygen into my intake tube just after the air filter just as a test should run better then NO2 because it is just O2 and there wont be any nitrogen to be passed through the engine. Having EECV the engine should compensate and change the A/F ratio.

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post #2 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-11-2005, 07:32 PM
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Well as that may sound good an paper it's nota good idea, and heres why. The reason no2 makes so much power is A) it has alot of oxygen, and even more important B) its burns cool!

So with just oxygen you get a increased amount of heat which can burn up your motor.
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if you do it though make sure to get it on video. we could use a good laugh.
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post #4 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-11-2005, 08:19 PM Thread Starter
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It would be fine in small amounts but I will get it on tape

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I did some reading and I would have to get 100+ octane gas and induce a rich condition before I dump pure oxygen into the engine.

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Make sure to take videos, pure oxygen is extremely volatile, and will probably burn before even getting into your cylinders, the heat from the engine seperates the nitrogen AFTER it enters the combustion chamber, not before...you think a nitrous backfire is bad...pure O2 yikes...like setting off a bomb under your hood, but hey, your car...do what you want.
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Actualy pure o2 dosent burn it just helps things that aer already burning burn beter and if I inject it into my air tube after the filter it will mix with the normal air and make the air going into the engine roughley 40% o2 insted of 23% o2 or so.

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if you dont have cash to mod your car now, you arent going to have cash to buy a new motor after you blow it with the pure o2.




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post #10 of 29 (permalink) Old 11-12-2005, 12:34 PM Thread Starter
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oh I am not going to run hardley any o2 in it just enough to feel the difference.
like NOS

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no but my buddy was going to do it on his jeep lol

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I just hope this dosen't happen
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Pure O2 is a BAD idea. even if it theoreticaly would work, if you inject it behind the MAF, you'll induce a sever lean condition. the cylinder temps and pressures are going to skyrocket, and it will blow up, guaranteed.

IC engines have been around for 100 years, and people have been racing cars for probably 99.5 years. if injecting pure O2 into them was a good idea, somebody somewhere would've tried it already.
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I couldnt believe that guy when he's like "you scratched the valve cover" I would be worried about alot more than my valve cover.

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Maybe you should inject pure hydrogen instead...... it should burn very well

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Dude, many people before you have tried this, and it will not work.

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Maybe you should inject pure hydrogen instead...... it should burn very well
Yes, and maybe a touch of Helium to lighten things up.

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Maybe you should inject pure hydrogen instead...... it should burn very well
Yes, and maybe a touch of Helium to lighten things up . I have actually been thinking about puting some helium in the tires of my winter beater, I heard you can get better gas milage.

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Yes, and maybe a touch of Helium to lighten things up . I have actually been thinking about puting some helium in the tires of my winter beater, I heard you can get better gas milage.
Actually, I think they are putting Nitrogen in the tires...

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Hows the O2 coming along?

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dude, maybe you should take a chemistry and physics class before you open your mouth.

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i think it could work very well with a LOT of expensive testing. it would probably be hard to run that with the right mixture, cams, timing, octane, and all that junk
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in a perfect world.....maybe, and thats a BIG maybe. but i dont think it is possible in any environment that isn't exteremly controlled.
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welcome to 1926........

and in 1954, an automotive application was sold publically

the point of adding N20/o2/water injection is to allow more octane molecules to burn. this of course releases more energy. this energy is thermal energy. the increase in thermal energy causes a rise in pressure, causing the piston in a motor to be moved to allow for an increase in volume (pv=nrt), which of course translates into mechanical energy. typ. IC engiens have 25-40% effientcy in transforming the potential energy of the fuel mix. into mechanical movement. Your idea will cause much more heat, which will not be contained in a IC motor.....which is the reason why this method energy production at such an effiecentcy for locomotion is found in turbines & rockets. these methods move based on energy released causing motion. IC engine is based on energy released & then transfered to mech. energy to casue motion, there is much energy lost this way.
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lazerviking is still posting so i guess he's still alive lol
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