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No 93 Octane

I've been lucky the last couple of years because there's 2 maybe 3 places in OKC with 93 octane...one real close to my house. I went the other day and they are out and don't anticipate it being available anytime soon. He says it has to do with some of the petroleum politics and that he will carry it if it's available.

Just wondering...is it just here where there's a shortage or is it nationwide?? I pulled my octane plug and filled up on 91 octane last week.

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Really? I've never seen a gas station in Wisconsin that didn't have 93 Premium, that's weird. Where is Moore, OK?

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Suburb of OKC.

My impression is that it's a regional thing with north Texas and maybe Arkansas and Kansas but I'm not sure.

Yeah, when I drove the 'bird out to Alabama late last year, I had no problem finding 93 octane in the Little Rock area and northern Alabama.

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Recently they stopped selling 93 Octane in Cedar Rapids IA as well. There was one station left in the town that continued to ship it in from IL. Paid a pretty penny for it too. I always made sure to thank them when I stopped for a fill-up. Now that I am in MI I have no problem finding 93 Octane.
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ah remember the days of Ultra 94?

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we have 94 up here it's an ethanol blend though if that matter's.i use 92 for my 91 octane tune it's far easier that way cause everyone has it.....

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We have a place here in Columbus, Ohio that sales 105 Octane but it's 6.00 a gallon
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Stations around me have suddenly reduced availability of 93. Premium went to 91 for the most part. Some stations still have 94 available for an additional limb.

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petroleum politics and no 93 octane? i smell bovine scatology.




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the higher the altitude and higher density altitude, the less octane required at the pumps is on reason 93 can be difficult to find. In other places, politics have a lot to do with it *cough*california*cough*

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I work for a gasoline distribution company in tulsa ok. There might be a strong possiability of 93 octane tulsa. I just can't say more.
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Everywhere that I've been in Oklahoma, all I could get was 91. With the car tuned for 93, it doesn't work all that well when they start putting ethanol or winter blends or different crap in the tank. I hate it. It's not like Colorado, where 91 works great with the altitude.

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Update:

I talked with a friend of mine today about this. He's a petroleum engineer here in OKC. He knew of the lack of 93 octane but hadn't heard any concrete reason why. Heck, OK is a big oil and gas state and we do a lot of our own refining and cracking....so it has to be politics.

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Haha, the shortage is probably caused by all those people who believe the commercials, thinking their 1990 Tercel runs better and will last longer with primo fuel.

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Can't get 93 Octane in KS either. My car is tuned for 91 octane (supposed to be anyway) but I still get knock. Probably due to the PI heads bolted onto an NPI block. Whatever the reason, does pulling the Octane plug help at all, and if so where can I find the plug?


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No 93 in vegas, we have 87 89 91 and at a very very few stations 100.

Regular (87) is $2.85
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Premium (91) is 3.05
Racing (100) is 4.99

Only about 10 gas stations with regular gasoline with no ethanol mix in the winter or summer

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Regular(87)-$2.75
Mid(89)-$2.85
Premium(92)-$2.95

and one town down from me the FS station there has a pump on the side for
Turbo Blue(103?) I wanna say it like $5.89 a gallon I think

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I can go to Joplin and get Race Gas. Or I can get it at the track when I go there to race. But its expensive, and isn't good on the O2 sensors (lead).


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well bp sells 92 by my house. just get a meth kit or use octane boosters
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I'll have to be sure and get some 92 while I'm up there then.


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most stations in New Jersey use a blend system. what that means is the only carry 2 grades of gas and mix the 2 for other octane ratings. Exxon only carries 87 and 93 but blend them at the pump to make 89. The most extreme I have seen is sunoco. The one in Lakewood carries 86 and 104 octane, but blends the fuel at the pump to offer 86, 87, 89, 91, 94 and 104.

I don't think we will ever have a problem finding high grade gasoline in Jersey with most of the stations running that system.

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we haven't had 93 or 92 here in AZ for amny many years ... since we have gone RFG like CA, we get crap ... 91 is the best I can get with 10% ethanol year round

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No answers yet on the "octane plug". Does it work to control ping? Can pulling it cause any damage? Any major detrimental effects on performance?

This weekend I'm in luck. Going to Joplin to meet a fellow member where I can pick up a couple gallons of race fuel to "boost" the octane in the tank, then headed to KC where I can get 92 octane.


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Nope, no major problems will be had by yanking the plug. The octane pin was installed by Ford so that the dealerships could have a way to easily fix a car's tendency to ping if other methods did not work. It is located up by the mass air flow sensor, and is a little grey looking piece of plastic inside of a black reciever. There are two wires coming out of the black piece, one gray and one green (if I remember right, it's been a while). By opening that circuit, you remove 5 deg of timing across the entire RPM range.

Some guys will leave the plug in and cut one of the octane plug's wires, splice in some more wire, run the wire to the dash, and mount a switch. That way, they can run with full timing until pining is heard, then with a flip of a switch, the pinging is gone instantly.

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If you said your car's been tuned for the PI heads and 91 octane, I'd be wary of pulling that octane pin. I know on the older J tunes it was very common to reverse the feature of that pin. Most of his older tunes actually added timing by pulling the pin for race fuel at the track. Check with who tuned your car before you go yanking that pin.

Also, I know that on a 95 4.6L, the octane pin's wires are both red (looks more like pink), not the green and black pairup.

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This is a very recent tune, not an older one. But I'll be careful of pulling it. run some tests first etc. Thanks for the answers.


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No 93 here in El Paso. Just 91 at around $3


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we can get 86, 87, 89, 92, 93, 94, and 110 here in michigan, all of which is 3.29 for the cheapest kind if makes driving painful, lol
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93 is plentiful here in ohio, so is sunoco 94. I used to work at a gas station and 89 was a mix between the 2. It was like a 45% 87 and 55% 93 mix according to the computer that monitored the pumps.

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