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ok so today went to the junk yard and found a whole sc inside was gutteed but the engine and s/c was still intact and in one piece. i nabbed the s/c with the top plenum and the piping that says supercharged. my question is has anyone actually got the super charging off the 3.8 to fit a 96/97 4.6L. i have ideas but wanted to see other ideas and go on from there. i only plan to run 6-8psi for now until i can beef the engine and rest of the drive train up.

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i dont think so, that V6 supercahrger has 6 ports and your V8 has 8 ports. Im NO expert but im pretty sure it wont work, i dont know how you would account for the other two cyclinders. maybe im wrong.
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the only way you can use the supercoupe m90 is to get a kit that already made for the m90, and the kits tend to come with the blower.

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Not worth trying. When i was a newb i had the same idea..................i ended up selling it to some guy at school.

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i've come up with an idea to mount it up. it wont fit under the hood but i'm sure it will work. basically i'm making a mount that has it sit above the intake manifold and a special box under it that will hook up to the intake manifold and another box stemming from the back outlet with a lip inside to hold the oil in. the bracket will hold it 2 1/2 to 3" above the intake manifold so i can fit the custom made connector.

out of curiosity who makes the kit. i rather not how to fabricate all this if i can get just the hardware.

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it could work a guy had one on a 84 LTD 302 at the luxobarge shootout.
http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co.../photo_09.html

You will have to do some fabrication.

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AED, FRPP, saleen, roush, ect, they all have used m90's at some point, they usually come with the blower.

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Don't get me wrong, more power to ya if you can fab everything up yourself and make a complete intake manifold to support the M90. Some one was making some kind of manifold for his V6 to support a M112 lighting blower a while back, but I don't think he finished the project, but you might want to hit him up for some help. He’s the Iowa Chapter D.

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^^^ i was actually about to post a link to that

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i would get an allen if i could afford it. i got this blower in mint condition for less then 100 bucks. and i can fabricate all the mounting stuff for 50 or less. i know i could do it but if there is an easier way then waht im doing then hell i'll do it the easy way.

its like this except i have the outlet going under neath it because the outlets come out the back and i have the intake in the center
http://images.musclemustangfastfords..._luxo_17_z.jpg

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umm the inlet is on the back of the sc and the outlet is on top (on yours)

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how much psi do they run at. i want to do a safe psi. if i'm not mistaken they produce 12psi. but i rather have about 6-8 psi. but i'v figured out how to mount it atleast.

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i think your way in over your head.

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i'm not.....yet. once i get a weekend off ill tear apart the intake and t/b and all that and make the mount for it. the hardest thing i'm seeing right now is getting a tube down to the intake manifold inlet.

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Sooooooooooo.... your going to have the m90 mated to some tube which goes to the stock manifold inlet? what else? i'm curious.

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i'm going to put a blow off valve in between that. and mate the intake with a custom made back plate with a 3.5" tube haning out the back so i can clamp on a hard tube for the intake. the mount will hold the s/c about 2 1/2 inches off the manifold. then i will have a rectangular "tube" going under the mount that will bolt up to inlet of the intake manifold. a hard tube will come from the top of the s/c down to the box. i think i got everything covered.

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So that^ only a tbird with an m90 i'm thinking?

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I nominate this thread for funniest/stupidest thread of the year!

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well i wish it wasn't. i'm trying to do this as right as possible. but that car is hilarious

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Toss that M90 breh. slap one of these babies on and call it a day
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i rather not go through the trouble of a turbo. it in my head and on paper seems a lot easier to do a m90

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i rather not go through the trouble of a turbo. it in my head and on paper seems a lot easier to do a m90
You thought out your serpentine setup yet?

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yeah theres a pully thats just there to guide its the one by the left hand coild pack and just under it to the right i was thinking of going back to that s/c and taking off the carry pully and putting it there.

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'i rather not go through the trouble of a turbo. it in my head and on paper seems a lot easier to do a m90'

I hope you weren't referring to the toro leafblower as the 'turbo' in question...

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actually i was didnt realise til afterwards. but yeah wouldnt do that either.

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one problem you have with the m90 will be fabricating a manifolds setup to work, figure the belt routing out. build a inlet for the blower with throttle, blower outlet top? You have the plastic manifold so you have the issue of fabricating a complete manifold to bolt the m90 upside down on or under? Or you can build a mount for the m90 to sit on blow thru the top and thru a FMIC and then into the intake....however the m90 will be sticking out thru the hood....All i can say is i see it getting more costly and more time and sweat than just saving and buying a blower kit for the 4.6L and going. On craigs list ive seen KB setups go for 3000$

i think you can just flip the m90 over and build a custom "upper elbow" replacement that will bolt the m90s outlet to the intake manifold however im sure it will still stick thru the hood?

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You could just buy a lower manifold from Tork Tech and try and fab up an adapter so you can rest the M90 on top.

There non-intercooled manifolds start at $1000.

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well i mean that seems like a waste of money as it has the same inlet as the stock one. today i took off all the intake parts down to the manifold and set it ontop. my thinking so far is if i move the throttle body and components attached to say where the airbox is and have the filter where the air silencer used to be. i could then run tubing to the intake of the s/c then run from the plenum down behind it. i just need to fabricate the connector to the manifold and a backplate to keep the oil inside the s/c and a a tube outlet around 3 to 3 1/2". i wish i could get it to fit under the stock hood to keep the sleeper look but i may have the hood pounded out to bulge it more.

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