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wtb supercharger

Im looking for a used supercharger for a tbird with a 4.6
anyways I m looking for one for under 800 including shipping
Also I would prefer to have the lower intake manifold with the supercharger
but if I have to buy them separate im fine thanks

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 08-30-2011, 10:44 PM
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That's a tall order to say the least...how many miles on that car? Certainly it needs suspension work and other refurbish work due to mileage or age or both safely and reliability first...then fun. You need to spend a lot more to throw a blower on your car...properly anyway.

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Probably not the best priority at age 15

And also, I see you have been responding to threads with supercoupe blowers for sale. Neither it or it with the lower manifold will fit your 4.6.

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Aedm8 had/has this for sale around that price. http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.p...ight=Powerdyne. I'm too spoiled by other brands and scared of damaging my rebuilt 4v to even in my worst dream consider putting an internal belt type on my car but for a 15yo who wants to go fast and can afford a new engine later on if required maybe it could be fun. Biggest fear with them is the belt comming apart and chunks being sent flying into your intake tube and into your engine (engines don't like to eat chunks of rubber) but maybe with the right in line screen/mesh like the old mass air flow sensors had and periodic belt replacements/inspections in wouldn't be a problem. That's about as cheap as they come in supercharger world, even used. Send AEDM8 a pm or email and see if he still has it if it is worth the risk for the gain in your opinion.

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If you want a supercharger for your car, the best thing to spend that $800 on right now is a complete suspension rebuild.

After that, get a performance built transmission.

After that, rebuild the engine and get some 96+ heads.

After that, MAYBE you could install a blower without the risk of blowing something up. And even installing a blower requires dyno time for tuning.

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You have a lot more things to do to your car other than a supercharger that is for sure.

Lots of things to get it ready and you also have a lot more reading and learning to do.

Read read read read read read.........

FYI, Supercharger for the 4.6 $1500-$2000 plus extras to install it and not blow the motor.

Good luck.
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Thank you guys for the help I will keep this in mind but I have one question what is the cheapest way to add hp to ur car I just want to know this for the future

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P.I. swap but with a crappy suspension isn't a good idea add more HP in a 16 yr old car first things first.

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There is a list of things that will make your car better while not necessarily adding HP.

First things first: Repair any problems with suspension, chassis, etc.

Off the top of my head (and in recommended order)(some of which you may have already done/known about):
-Tune up to include fuel filter, plugs, plug wires, cleaning MAF, etc. etc.
-Remove the silencer (free and does help some)
-Brake upgrade to at least PBR dual piston calipers and rear disc. (Better yet Cobra brakes front and rear, but requires 17” or larger wheels)
-J-Mod the transmission (almost mandatory for the earlier transmissions)
-3.73 T/L differential (probably best bang for the buck)

Then start getting a little more serious:
-Explorer engine swap (probably the best bang for the buck in 94/95 MN12’s)
-Built transmission and higher stall converter.

Don’t get too wrapped up in the HP numbers and such. I know a lot of people that have great peak hp/tq numbers, but their cars are unreliable and generally a POS that you can’t rely on to drive.

IMHO a reliable car that you can walk out to on any day of the week, no matter the weather, and hop in and drive 1000 miles is a lot more fun than one that will lift the front wheels off the ground, but can’t be driven for 10 miles.

But that’s just me and my opinion.

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Horsepower gets real expensive real quick, adding alot of power to old suspension and driveline is not a good idea. My 95's automatic lasted about a month and a half after i added boost. Trust me, get your car in perfect shape before trying to go for big power. You'll have a lot more fun with a running car than with a broken one waiting to save money for parts, I learned this the hard way.

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You have so so much to learn.

Do it the smart way.

Pick a topic you want to know more about then search search and read about it only then ask some questions.

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I remember my first beer...

In all seriousness, just fixing all the "old car problems" like suspension, minor engine wear issues, odometer gear, transmission and whatever other issues you may be facing are far more important than making big power and going fast, ESPECIALLY at 16 years old...car insurance and fuel and maintenance are expensive, ESPECIALLY at 16 years old. Your first priority should be to learn as much as possible, get your hands dirty you cant really hurt these cars, and they will be good to you if you are good to them. Another thing to think about, being a youthful driver, cops will notice you, so loud and fast aren't the best contributions to those circumstances.

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pulleys,throttle body, hot air intake and a 2.5-3' exhaust dual make 10-15hp for a 4.6 and i bet it could all be done for about 500$ (i imagine)

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I remember my first beer...

In all seriousness, just fixing all the "old car problems" like suspension, minor engine wear issues, odometer gear, transmission and whatever other issues you may be facing are far more important than making big power and going fast, ESPECIALLY at 16 years old...car insurance and fuel and maintenance are expensive, ESPECIALLY at 16 years old. Your first priority should be to learn as much as possible, get your hands dirty you cant really hurt these cars, and they will be good to you if you are good to them. Another thing to think about, being a youthful driver, cops will notice you, so loud and fast aren't the best contributions to those circumstances.
Cant emphasize the bolded part enough. All cars seems to take on a personality as you deal with them. My birds very rarely let me down when I needed them and when they did break did so at the most convenient time and place possible,

My latest.. like a surly teen adopted from a loving but temporary foster home.. immediately set out to vex me and I didnt let her get me upset. Pretty sure she's close to being won over and wont trouble me more than the two I previously drove for over 250,000 collective miles.

Even my Bravada has settled in.. and believe me if you were asking such modding questions on the blazerforum you would get worse. There it's a fight just to keep her running and the costs are way high.
Birds are not 'high maintenance prima donnas', that's for sure.

Learn and enjoy and she'll pay you back when it's time to go with more power.

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Thank you guys for all the help
Oh and im learning to become a meachanic so this should help

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Just try to read a little more and search and even sometimes if you don't find the answer here is a lot people willingto help you but learn from other ppl mistakes if you see 2,3,4 guys with the same advice follow them and for sure with time,and work you going to have a nice bird just don't go with the flow like another teens lousy exhaust and sound system and they feel the kings of the road like you say because everyone drives a mustang that make you different well show it yourself doing the right things learned from the TCCOA old dogs and I promise you don't going to be disappointed.

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