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possibly found the source of my rattling

the connections are loose at the shock tower end of my uca's. i tried tightening the nuts down but that didnt help much. the ball joint boots look fine.

has anyone else tracked down any rattling/clunking in the same place? im wondering if the shock tower area of the uca's is a common source of noise.

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the connections are loose at the shock tower end of my uca's. i tried tightening the nuts down but that didnt help much. the ball joint boots look fine.

has anyone else tracked down any rattling/clunking in the same place? im wondering if the shock tower area of the uca's is a common source of noise.
Mike if you tightened the bolts and that didn't solve the loose. Then the bushing must be shot, like gone.

Is there movement in the arm at the shock tower?

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Is there movement in the arm at the shock tower?
oh yeah, i can definitely see the entire uca/spindle assembly move just a bit.

im asking if this is a common issue for the uca's to be loose at the towers, or if there is a brand to stay away from in which the bushings can fail early causing movement.

the previous owner had the uca's replaced, but im surprised to see them fail so soon. im wondering if he didnt get the right brand. hence the reason for my inquiries.

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oh yeah, i can definitely see the entire uca/spindle assembly move just a bit.

im asking if this is a common issue for the uca's to be loose at the towers, or if there is a brand to stay away from in which the bushings can fail early causing movement.

the previous owner had the uca's replaced, but im surprised to see them fail so soon. im wondering if he didnt get the right brand. hence the reason for my inquiries.
Was the car lowered when you got it?

It's possible that they were tightened with car up and then lowering it put lots of tension on the bushings.

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My blue car had perfect boots on the UCA's but both ball joints are very shot.

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My blue car had perfect boots on the UCA's but both ball joints are very shot.

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Good point. Good boots does not mean good joints.


Mike just replace them and get it over with. The weekend of the 25th should be good for you.
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Mike just replace them and get it over with. The weekend of the 25th should be good for you.
it was lowered when i bought it.

im not saying im not gonna replace them. cant i just get a question answered around here?

25th, umm yeah, nothing going on that weekend, that i know of.

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25th, umm yeah, nothing going on that weekend, that i know of.

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has anyone else tracked down any rattling/clunking in the same place?
Yep, my mark VIII's UCA's move from side to side, and they def. make a noise. Also my Wheel Bearings and Air Struts do to... =P

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well, what do you know. both of the nuts closest to the firewall were, in fact, loose. i didnt have an 18mm wrench on me the first time, so i couldnt get to the firewall side nuts. i went to break them loose prior to changing out the uppers, and they were already loose. passenger side took about half a turn to tighten all the way, and driver side took about a quarter turn.

my rattle is finally GONE, after replacing nearly even front suspension component. i think a few of us are guilty of doing just that.

so gentlemen, check your fasteners to see if they are loose before you replace something.

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well, what do you know. both of the nuts closest to the firewall were, in fact, loose. i didnt have an 18mm wrench on me the first time, so i couldnt get to the firewall side nuts. i went to break them loose prior to changing out the uppers, and they were already loose. passenger side took about half a turn to tighten all the way, and driver side took about a quarter turn.

my rattle is finally GONE, after replacing nearly even front suspension component. i think a few of us are guilty of doing just that.

so gentlemen, check your fasteners to see if they are loose before you replace something.
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Hey Big Mike,

I am trying to send you a PM...but it keeps saying your box is too full. Need to clear some of that out before you can receive any more PM's...

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He's out of pocket for a couple days. I'll tell him to get with the program.
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I have heard that you have to tighten those bolts with weight on the car. What happens if you don't?

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well, what do you know. both of the nuts closest to the firewall were, in fact, loose. i didnt have an 18mm wrench on me the first time, so i couldnt get to the firewall side nuts. i went to break them loose prior to changing out the uppers, and they were already loose. passenger side took about half a turn to tighten all the way, and driver side took about a quarter turn.

my rattle is finally GONE, after replacing nearly even front suspension component. i think a few of us are guilty of doing just that.

so gentlemen, check your fasteners to see if they are loose before you replace something.
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Can you take a pic ? I cant place them in my mines eye For i have a bit of a rattle at times in my Frt end

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Can you take a pic ? I cant place them in my mines eye For i have a bit of a rattle at times in my Frt end
for the firewall sides? they are kind of hidden down there. i believe they are real close to the bottom end of the hood shocks.

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for the firewall sides? they are kind of hidden down there. i believe they are real close to the bottom end of the hood shocks.
Lost your stool so you couldn't see in that far could ya.
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Lost your stool so you couldn't see in that far could ya.
rodney's got jokes today.

you're the one who is well acquainted with losing your stool, sir.

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I just tightened mine up some, I only go to do 3 of the nuts before it started to rain, I didn't get to the "fun" one under the master cylinder. I tightened one about a full turn, maybe a little more, one 3/4 turn, and the other about a half. Didn't take it for a ride yet...we'll see what happens. I am definately going to tighten EVERYTHING I have replaced.

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Take it ez with the 3 top shock bolts....they break off if overtorqued (just fyi, I don't know which bolts you are trying to tighten here ).

The person that had the car before me told me the shop broke off two and replaced the mount.

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for the firewall sides? they are kind of hidden down there. i believe they are real close to the bottom end of the hood shocks.
I can take a pic of that if yall need??

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I just tightened mine up some, I only go to do 3 of the nuts before it started to rain, I didn't get to the "fun" one under the master cylinder. I tightened one about a full turn, maybe a little more, one 3/4 turn, and the other about a half. Didn't take it for a ride yet...we'll see what happens. I am definately going to tighten EVERYTHING I have replaced.
frank, i tightened mine with the car on all fours, btw. for the master cylinder side, that was actually the easiest one for me. i dont know if anything is in the way there on a mark viii, but i was able to use a socket and ratchet, with the handle occupying the space where the firewall, inner fender, and shock tower meet.

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Good idea. Last time I reached in that area with a breaker bar and held it while I tightened the other side with a ratchet. I didn't do it last night because it started raining. The parts I tightened made no difference. Looks like I will be chasing the noise a little longer.

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frank, i didnt have to hold the other side stationary. there should be bolts with those flags that keep the bolt from turning.

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frank, i didnt have to hold the other side stationary. there should be bolts with those flags that keep the bolt from turning.
I busted the flag off of mine when I replaced the control arm. Only on the one under the m/c, because it seemed easier to me at the time.
I am leaning towards motor mounts as the source of my clunk.

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