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Squeaking when I turn now....

Does anyone have any idea what could be the cause of a loud sqeuaking/squeeling when the wheel is turned.

It's coming out of my right side which has the loose wheel bearing, and due to a bad series of circumstance I managed to spin my car out the other day......I didn't hit anything, just slid around a couple of times avoiding curbs.

It seems like its coming from the bottom of the lower control arm(I think, it's holding the wheel on, connected to the UCA) right where it turns.

could greasing it fix it? is it even greaseable?
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lower?? upper has been replaced not too long ago.

It's actually a creaking, like a super loud creaky door.

I was feeling it while my girlfriend cut the wheel, seemed like the creaking/vibration was coming from the lower end.
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Probably lower ball joint or maybe the strut rod bushing. I noticed mine would occasionally squeak when I turned the wheels stopped or at low speeds. The upper control arms are new (haven't got around to the lowers yet) and the squeak went away when I tightened the frame side nuts on the control arms. I really need to get them replaced, but it did stop the squeaking.

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does it make that sound when you stop rapidly also? i had that same issue last month and it was my lower ball joint. You can try lubricating it and see if that fixes it, if not then it will have to be replaced.
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Just do what I did and replace your ENTIRE front-end! That way, you'll no longer have any strange noises and no more bad parts to worry about!

Of course, my wife and my father both think I'm being ultra-anal - and, they're right!! But, I at least have no more worries because I didn't know how old my suspension pieces were AND I have a car that feels totally transformed from what it was like when I bought it! It is now SUCH a pleasure to drive!

I'd also say that your lower ball-joint is bad and needs to be replaced.

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Does anyone have any idea what could be the cause of a loud sqeuaking/squeeling when the wheel is turned.

It's coming out of my right side which has the loose wheel bearing, and due to a bad series of circumstance I managed to spin my car out the other day......I didn't hit anything, just slid around a couple of times avoiding curbs.

It seems like its coming from the bottom of the lower control arm(I think, it's holding the wheel on, connected to the UCA) right where it turns.

could greasing it fix it? is it even greaseable?
If your ball-joints have grease fittings on them, then you can grease them. If not, you can't. However, if the boots are torn in any way, greasing won't help - the grease will just come out and dirt/contaminents have already gotten in there, making replacement of the ball-joint a necessity.

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I don't want to sound mean, blunt, or pushy, but I've indirectly experienced lower ball joint failure and know how rotten the experience is and prefer that you don't find out. If your suspension is creaking like I think it is, you need to address it. Now. Lower ball joint failure will more than likely total your car at speed and possibly seriously injure you and even others. The right lower ball joint failed on my mom's 93 over a bump in a particularly bumpy road because too much time was spent fixing other things and greasing up worn parts. Luckily she was only going 15 MPH. Had it happened on the freeway... (we were literally heading for the interstate to start an 8 hour drive; I was in the car ahead of her)

Sorry if I sound paranoid or ecstatic, it's just whenever I think about lower ball joint failure, I visualize what happened then and think about the "what ifs".

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does it make that sound when you stop rapidly also? i had that same issue last month and it was my lower ball joint. You can try lubricating it and see if that fixes it, if not then it will have to be replaced.
no not stopping, though i'm having other issues with that. This is only happening when I turn, and is now constant, and very embarrassing if you ask me.

I have a bad wheel bearing and I'm already spending $133 to fix that, which is basically breaking me.

I won't be able to replace this lower control arm until next month.


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I don't want to sound mean, blunt, or pushy, but I've indirectly experienced lower ball joint failure and know how rotten the experience is and prefer that you don't find out. If your suspension is creaking like I think it is, you need to address it. Now. Lower ball joint failure will more than likely total your car at speed and possibly seriously injure you and even others. The right lower ball joint failed on my mom's 93 over a bump in a particularly bumpy road because too much time was spent fixing other things and greasing up worn parts. Luckily she was only going 15 MPH. Had it happened on the freeway... (we were literally heading for the interstate to start an 8 hour drive; I was in the car ahead of her)

Sorry if I sound paranoid or ecstatic, it's just whenever I think about lower ball joint failure, I visualize what happened then and think about the "what ifs".
dude, trust me, I hear you, I don't like this stuff and I want it fixed, if I had the cash I would be replacing the entire front end, as it is for now I can really only handle one problem at a time, and it takes time to fix.

I've been very careful with the car with this stuff going on.
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If you cant fix it soon I wouldnt drive the car. Get a set of wheel bearings and lower control arms and call it a day.

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ya but it's another $120 or so for the lower control arms.......there is no way I can get that money right now.
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ya but it's another $120 or so for the lower control arms.......there is no way I can get that money right now.
Thats a lot cheaper than a new car when the ball joint fails and you total it doing 70!!! Seriously though, dont put yourself in danger like that, find a ride from someone until you can get er fixed up.

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Seriously though, dont put yourself in danger like that, find a ride from someone until you can get er fixed up.
I completely agree; at this point you are endangering people other than yourself and passengers. Get a ride until you get it fixed.

I'd hate to hear "TCCoA poster kills family of 11 thru poor maintenance" , you know?

You will have no control of the car if it fails. Depending on severity, the brakes will go at the same time. Emergency brakes with no steering is the best case you can plan for.

On the good side, the broken stob of the control arm dragging on the ground will slow you down; on the bad side, it will spin you around to that side.

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I completely agree; at this point you are endangering people other than yourself and passengers. Get a ride until you get it fixed.

I'd hate to hear "TCCoA poster kills family of 11 thru poor maintenance" , you know?

You will have no control of the car if it fails. Depending on severity, the brakes will go at the same time. Emergency brakes with no steering is the best case you can plan for.

On the good side, the broken stob of the control arm dragging on the ground will slow you down; on the bad side, it will spin you around to that side.

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If you can't get it fixed A.S.A.P., park it until you can fix it! If a ball-joint breaks at speed, you're going to be seriously regretting the results - IF you're around to!

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I think my dad is going to spring for the LCA, it seems decently priced on American sites, and we both agree that if the wheel/hub is already going to be off.

There is no way I'd be able to get a ride with anyone, seriously, and where I work I would literally be stranded in the middle of nowhere.

I'm in the process of trying to find the best price on a good quality LCA right now.
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I realize that replacing the LCA is the optimal solution, but if money is tight is there any reason to not just replace the ball joint?
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I realize that replacing the LCA is the optimal solution, but if money is tight is there any reason to not just replace the ball joint?
Yes, because replacing just the ball-joint is harder and just as much (if not more!) money as replacing the entire control arm!

I bought brand-new TRW-made LCA's from Advance Auto for $56.00 each.

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I dropped a ball joint a few years ago and it was not pleasant. I agree with everyone above you need to replace it NOW.

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Yes, because replacing just the ball-joint is harder and just as much (if not more!) money as replacing the entire control arm!

I bought brand-new TRW-made LCA's from Advance Auto for $56.00 each.

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I didn't have any problem replacing just the ball joint using a borrowed press from Autozone. I think I only paid $ 25 or so for the ball joint with lifetime warranty. Anyway it was just a suggestion to save the guy some money, I know there have been times when I didn't have the money to spend.
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I'm 99% certain it's you lower ball joint. I had the same exact thing. Like a really loud creaky door that would tend to be most noticeable when I was parking at my old job, which was probably the most expensive country club in the state, so all the members has bmw's and mercedes and so on, and they'd just look at my car. When you turn the wheel real slowly, does it kinda go "pop... pop... pop" and then the faster you turn it goes from "pop... pop..." to "popopopop" to "creeeeeeaaakk"? My mechanic tried shooting some grease in them (just through the boot), I think it made it worse, so I had the replaced and have never heard it again. And ALL I got replaced was the ball joint so it couldn't have been anything else. I would probably get the whole LCA done though if I were to do it again, that's what people keep telling me.
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I agree with the other posters it sounds like a ball joint to me get it seen to asap, you could try packing it out with a grease gun, that's what I did but it didn't improve so looks like a new ball joint for me too...
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