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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-09-2009, 02:08 PM Thread Starter
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Cobra Hub = explorer HUb

Just would like to know that are the 2002-06 explorer/ Mountaineer rear hubs the same as the cobra IRS rear hubs?
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As discussed here its more possible than you think, later exploders got IRS, and the part number used on the hub is almost identical to the cobra.

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My mom has a later explorer(01-02?). Shall I go pull things apart and see what we've got when she gets home? I think I will. Check back here around 10-11 pm.

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My mom has a later explorer(01-02?). Shall I go pull things apart and see what we've got when she gets home? I think I will. Check back here around 10-11 pm.

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if its an '01 and earlier explorer dont waste your time

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if its an '01 and earlier explorer dont waste your time
we'll see in an hour or so. I know it's irs i saw that yesterday but thats all i know about it

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Yeah its a 2002 but its not coming home today, I guess tomorrow night. Sorry guys, we'll get this figured out.

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Ok... mom is visiting friends over by Sparta, WI and won't be back untill tomorrow... As soon as I want to look at something she takes it and runs off lol

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I doubt that they are interchangeable. The Explorer bearing part number is unique to those vehicles, not the same as the T-Bird / Cobra bearing number (which is actually an old Taurus part).

Actually, I just took one of each off the shelf here at the dealership and compared them side by side. The outer diameter of the Explorer hub, where the rotor would fit over, is much larger. So I'm going to go with a solid NO on this one.


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So if you chuck it on a lathe and cut down the outer diameter would it fit then?
I am a machinest and have a lathe.
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I didn't compare all of the other dimensions, as I don't have accurate enough measuring devices here to make that assessment. Why not just buy the proper hubs and save yourself the hassle? I do have the Cobra hubs for sale from up here for a pretty reasonable price.

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I've never understood why people want to re-invent the wheel, so to speak, and modify the hell out of things to make them work, when it is un-necessary, because there are already parts out there that will work just fine.

It's like a friend of mine who keeps telling me to pull my IRS and swap in an IRS out of a cobra...you know, "because it would be unique" sure, unique, although pointless.
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I hardly call finding an alternative reinventing the wheel, the cobra hubs cost almost a hundred more each from ford than the explorer hubs go for. If they don't fit they don't fit, but its worth finding out exactly whats different about them.

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Yeah, sorry guys
As soon as I got up this morning she left for work...
We both have next friday off, I tear it down then.

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Like I have always said: Either brains or money, it seems you have money! The explorer hub is about $35 on ebay while a cobra hub is up to $150 duh! Can you understand this, its a $100 bucks less. Reinventing the wheel huh, tell that to Jack Roush. Our society today is built on reinvention. You must have been absent that day in high school.
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damn lexx if it's only 35.00 go BUY ONE and install it and then run back here and tell us how that worked for you.

Chances are you already GOT good info from a source you probably shouldn't be taking "GED" pot shots at his education.

The man PICKED UP, as in walked over and PUT HIS HAND on the damned part your talking about... you might consider taking your foot off his testicle and saying THANKS FOR THE INFO.

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Yeah, sorry guys
As soon as I got up this morning she left for work...
We both have next friday off, I tear it down then.
man when she got here, I was gonna rip into her rear hub.. but I guess she saw "that look" in my eyes and she "high tailed it back home".

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man when she got here, I was gonna rip into her rear hub.. but I guess she saw "that look" in my eyes and she "high tailed it back home".

sorry, I tried
Hey is that an innuendo? Lol

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OK, so I took a few more rough measurements with a tape measure ...

The Explorer hub has a diameter of roughly 1-7/8" for the portion behind the hub face, vs. 1-5/8" for the Cobra hub. The length of that is portion is about 2-1/8" vs. 1-7/8" for the Cobra. The outer face on the Explorer hub where the rotor sits has an extra step not used on the Cobra hub, and is about 5/8" deep vs. 1/2" deep. So I guess if you wanted to machine all of those parts of the hub, it may be possible to make it work ... but there could be other things I'm not seeing that would prevent you from doing so.


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damn Ed, now THAT is going above and beyond.

I'll say "thank you" since the orignal poster wont do it for himself...he lets other people do it for him

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No worries, they are on the shelf about 15 feet away from me ... the parts dept. here isn't very big.


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so if the taurus { i can't find my " interchange list " i've been making , horrible about stuff laying everywhere ! } and i got it / the years listed on the list , is the same as the cobra , is the the bolt pattern 5x 41/2 or the smaller one i thought it was ???? 5 x a /14 is it ??? sheez i need my notes . i got my parts list for the disc conversion using the bird stuff and been picking up stuff with what scraps the 53 leaves , but wasn't going to do the bigger pattern as the hub's are kinda pricey and ford is the only place i can find 'em .....................
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Taurus was 5 on 4-1/4" pattern as well (except for the 2008-up Taurus). I have the rear Cobra hubs for $150 per pair shipped, about half the price they are usually selling for in the U.S.


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I might have to get me a couple of the explorer hubs and try them, sounds to me like when machined correctly they would work perfectly with cobra axles.
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