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Re-doing Rear suspension?? Whats the best for Daily Driving??

Okay so I'm doing some research about what suspension parts to buy. I am just asking about bushings not springs or anything else. I came across regular rubber, "Delrin", Poly and my last possible Solid Aluminum. Now I cant find anything on these delrin bushings, except on the guys website which doesnt really tell you much. NOw I had a buddy machine me some solid aluminum bushings for a Supra. These were great. Game me lots of stiffness. But this with a stock everything else. So by the time I would have upgraded the rest it might of been too stiff? Any body got any Ideas ?? More info on the delrin's?? IS Poly gonna be the best choice for corner cutting and daily driving ?? I also plan on welding all the body seams up so that will add some stiffness. Anybody already using any of these let me know what you think of your setup?? Do you wish it was stiffer or softer ??

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re: Delrin Bushings

Have you read THIS?

However, new stock bushings might be best for a daily driver.....

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I had not read that as I have a Cougar but very nice read. So is delrin a material like poly or aluminum? If it is what are its properties compared to poly? or Aluminum? Stiffer? Softer? Or there's no comparison.

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I had not read that as I have a Cougar but very nice read. So is delrin a material like poly or aluminum? If it is what are its properties compared to poly? or Aluminum? Stiffer? Softer? Or there's no comparison.
Delrin is a solid material, harder than Poly, but a little more forgiving than solid aluminum. It's also imune to corrosion, unlike aluminum.

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it also stated they are used for racing & off road use only

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Every aftermarket performance part has that disclaimer. Doesn't mean it wont work.

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I am putting those bushings on my car.

OK it's a race car, LOL



New factory bushings are better than old stock bushings.
But the Delrin seem to be best.


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Every aftermarket performance part has that disclaimer. Doesn't mean it wont work.
Everyone? That's probably the 2 nd time I've seen it. I have many aftermarket parts on my car and it's not a race car.

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it also stated they are used for racing & off road use only
That disclaimer is SOLELY FOR LIABILITY. That way, if you get in an accident and the suspension is to blame, the company has legal ammunition to defend it's products. Welcome to the 21st century, nobody wants to take responsibility because it's expensive.

Just throwing out more of my philosophy and FACTS out there for anybody who cares...lol
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I put Delrin on an 81 Trans-Am and it did make a world of difference. It handled great but you could feel every grain of sand on the road in your gut. Do not know about poly.
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That disclaimer is SOLELY FOR LIABILITY. That way, if you get in an accident and the suspension is to blame, the company has legal ammunition to defend it's products. Welcome to the 21st century, nobody wants to take responsibility because it's expensive.

Just throwing out more of my philosophy and FACTS out there for anybody who cares...lol
i care ..... lol

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i care ..... lol
Thank you. I do too, but now that I read what I wrote, it's actually not that clear. The company just needs a disclaimer to deny any responsibility, so they can hold the position that you installed and ran their product on the road which they clearly stated is not intended.

Reminds me of one of the wood stoves we had in our house where I grew up that had stamped in the cast iron "HOT WHEN IN USE". What kind of moron can't tell that? Again, it's liability, you get 3rd degree burns, company says, "Our product clearly states in English that this product is hot when in use, so we are not liable for any damages incurred due to mis-use."
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Very true...

But how about that stupid lady that sued mcdonalds and won with because she spilled hot coffee. I forgot. Did they say it was hot or not. I heard she lost it on appeal.

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she didnt spill the coffee. the coffee was hot enough to melt through the foam cup and burn her.
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Very true...

But how about that stupid lady that sued mcdonalds and won with because she spilled hot coffee. I forgot. Did they say it was hot or not. I heard she lost it on appeal.
She still won a settlement but it was reduced on appeal from the original amount awarded by the jury.

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she didnt spill the coffee. the coffee was hot enough to melt through the foam cup and burn her.
No, she spilled the coffee on herself.

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lol yeah i love it trunk money. it has gone way off topic.

and take it from the college student, putting wikipedia as a reference is a terrible idea.
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Ok... How about those bushings.. Lol

what year cobra rear spring cups are compatible with a 95 sc.

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Ok... How about those bushings.. Lol

what year cobra rear spring cups are compatible with a 95 sc.

Oh yeah... suspension talk. i forgot
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Yeaaaa.... I saw the service entrance and figure I'd pop a u- turn.

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lol yeah i love it trunk money. it has gone way off topic.

and take it from the college student, putting Wikipedia as a reference is a terrible idea.
Interesting about putting Wikipedia as a reference is a terrible idea. I'm curious about the reasoning behind that... Most Wiki information is cross referenced to another source. Should the original source be cited when referencing Wiki articles for collegiate papers etc.?

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yes interesting X2

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yes wiki is considered a completely useless source for any info at even the high school level. not that wiki is bad. just that it is not always completely accurate. not that i care about the coffee. just havin a little fun with ya, trunk monkey.

i have rarely had problems with the info that i have found on there, i would simply never dream of citing it in a paper for school.
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Yes, I understand that sometimes Wiki isn't completely accurate. However, I wouldn't consider it a completely useless source for info. A completely useless source would be The Sun, The Onion, the National Enquirer or the like.

So the work-around is to cite the original source(s) that are cited in the Wiki articles.

LOL, You still found the information at Wiki but Wiki isn't listed as your souce. That should be acceptable to any teacher. They'll never know.

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Wiki is like cliff notes.

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The Onion Movie, non-stop laughter. Make sure you get your neck belts checked, theres a recall.

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thanx beamer i will need to look into that
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unit body

cracks in firewalls

delrin bushings

mega thick sway bars

aluminum bushings

short stiff springs

poly bushings

street driving

cracks in rear floors

just random thoughts

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what are the random thoughts answers too?

what was the question?

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