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New shocks all around!!

Well the KYB's I ordered are here. I sure hope it warms up soon so I get get some real work done. Heres a pic. 150 bux shipped

I keep hearing things about the front upper shock mount should be replaced while I'm at it. Any opinions??





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My '92's upper front shock mounts were fine when I redid the shocks / springs / UCAs with over 130,000 miles about 16 months ago.

It's just a shock as you and I know ...
... not a front strut holding the spindle in a certain allignment like a McPhearson strut.

There is a rubber spring seat up there, that was fine as well, and still is.

Yours may be different, different roads, seasons, conditions, etc.

A fine pair ... ... and whatever you do, Have a Safe Trip!
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I would definately replace the upper shock mounts....cheap insurance....I did not replace them on my 95, and not only did one of the studs break upon re-assembly, I had a "clunk" that seemed to be coming from one of them...

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I'm with Earl.

Unless you just don't have the money, then replace all bushings / mounts while you've got it apart, with good ones.

I HATE having to work on cars, so I'd rather do it right once than do it twice .

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inspect the part....if it is alright, then no need to replace it.....if you don't know what you're looking at, then post some pics, and ask away!

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thats BS!.... if you're going through all that work and the part is inexpensive to replace. just change it. what the point of it being good now, than a year later when it goes bad, you have to do double labor and fix it again for nothing.

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thats bs.... if you r going through all that work and the part is inexpensive to replace. just change it. what the point of it being good now, than a year later when it goes bad, you have to do double labor and fix it again for nothing.

cheap insurance!
I totally agree. I changed the radius arm bushings on an ex-girlfriend's Exploder and when I went to Discount to get them, the guy asked if I wanted the rubber ones for $9 or the poly ones for $11; obviously, for $2 I asked for the poly ones.

They said WE ONLY HAVE ONE POLY IN STOCK, but we have plenty in rubber. People always get the cheapest and for $2 for something you will NEVER fix again on that vehicle just makes no sense to me.

People just don't think - that's the only explanation I can come up with...
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thats BS!.... if you're going through all that work and the part is inexpensive to replace. just change it. what the point of it being good now, than a year later when it goes bad, you have to do double labor and fix it again for nothing.

cheap insurance!
call it bull sh1t if you want......but there is no need to replace parts that are not worn out.....

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call it bull sh1t if you want......but there is no need to replace parts that are not worn out.....
For those of you south of the Mason-Dixon line, I would agree. Now, because beamerboy lives in the salt belt, I'm going to say replace them while its apart.

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call it bull sh1t if you want......but there is no need to replace parts that are not worn out.....

ok..so you deal with the double labor waste of time... and money, if you dont do it yourself that is. and call it a day.

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ok..so you deal with the double labor waste of time... and money, if you dont do it yourself that is. and call it a day.
why would it be a waste if the part is okay?

use some common sense.

and for me, I do all of my own work....and know how to inspect parts to see if they need changing or not..

argue all you want, I stand by what I said.

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thats why americas first amendment is so great.

i just argue the fact for a CHEAP insurance part, such as a bushing in this case, there is NO reason NOT to change it, so you wont have to down the road and do a whole suspension job ..... again just to change a $5 part.

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The part is $30
i see it for 56 each for moog online at oreillys......

where did you get that price from?

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do it once do it right end of story

why not replace the old stuff why its apart

would you change one brake pad if only one was worn down?

your driving around a 10 or 15 yr old car why not put new **** on it while its apart

thats some backwoods ****

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i am from texas afterall....

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dang you all get feisty about upper shock mounts

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i am from texas afterall....
The question was posed, you answered it with what you personally would do. I don't see an issue here. Ultimately, its up to the person replacing it as to what they would do, but I stand by what I said as well. Salt destroys car, especially suspension parts -- you don't have to worry about that down in Texas.

My '95 had all the 1995 suspension parts on it when I picked it up down south, I've been driving it all winter, and now I need new UCAs, LCAs, and sway bar endlinks

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The question was posed, you answered it with what you personally would do. I don't see an issue here. Ultimately, its up to the person replacing it as to what they would do, but I stand by what I said as well. Salt destroys car, especially suspension parts -- you don't have to worry about that down in Texas.

My '95 had all the 1995 suspension parts on it when I picked it up down south, I've been driving it all winter, and now I need new UCAs, LCAs, and sway bar endlinks
Your car is at the magical age where everything just quits, the salt and resulting rust just makes it much harder to fix lol

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Your car is at the magical age where everything just quits, the salt and resulting rust just makes it much harder to fix lol
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how do the KYBs compare to KONIs?

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Thanx for all the replies. I just thought I read that they were notorious for being cracked and such. And there is no replacement in stock and I would have to order. And it's the only part I dont have to switch out for new suspension parts.

I definitly see 95badbird's point. I lived in texas for a while. Cars come apart soooo easy there. The fact that I live so far north and in the snow/salt belt I know that even if I remove all the bolts the part may not come off without a little elbow grease and a "BFH"


I plan on re-doing the whole suspension all over again with poly and moog instead of the ebay parts I have. They should last long enough for me to gather all the parts for hub swap and brake upgrade and the poly set from SCP.

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how do the KYBs compare to KONIs?
hmmm lemme count the ways....lol


KYB= stock, Kia etc.. you get what you pay for
Tokico= 30% better than stock- Lexus
Koni= King, best, BMW

anything else just plain crap. Bilstein was great when it was available

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Thanx for all the replies. I just thought I read that they were notorious for being cracked and such. And there is no replacement in stock and I would have to order. And it's the only part I dont have to switch out for new suspension parts.

I definitly see 95badbird's point. I lived in texas for a while. Cars come apart soooo easy there. The fact that I live so far north and in the snow/salt belt I know that even if I remove all the bolts the part may not come off without a little elbow grease and a "BFH"


I plan on re-doing the whole suspension all over again with poly and moog instead of the ebay parts I have. They should last long enough for me to gather all the parts for hub swap and brake upgrade and the poly set from SCP.
why are you getting poly?.. you like harsh rides and replacing certain parts over and over again. not all poly is bad. just most

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I like stiff suspension. I wanna feel every pebble on the road. I wanna feel the stripes on the road. I want to become one with the car. You cant do that with mushy rubber that wears out over and over again. You ever seen a worn out poly bushing?

It's not really a harsh ride. It's a more of a tighter ride. Not loose sloppy stock! Unless your driving on bumpy dirt roads it's not even that bad. I had a supra I changed out the rear lower control arms to aluminum and loved it. To each their own if you want a perfomance car to handle like a caddy thats your choice.

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Just stay away from poly (or ANY non ford) strut rod bushings and you'll be fine.

Harsh rides are too often associated to anything not mushy.

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