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Anyone Make a Lift Kit? I Want a Donk! Ha ha

Not really, but I would like to lift the ride height maybe 2" higher than stock for better ground clearance. I realize it might look goofy, but with some slightly taller tires to fill in the wheel well gaps, I bet it will look fine.

If I lift it through the springs and leave all the control arms in the stock locations, do you think it could be aligned correctly?

I can move the front strut rod forward mount down to maintain caster.

I might be able to add some spacers to the rear subframe and drop the whole thing an inch if the gas tank isn't too close.

Has anyone lifted a T-bird?
Or just added bigger tires?

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I've seen them raised with 26 or maybe bigger rims on them. Most of the time they do caprices. Never got close enough to see how they did it.
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I am at 7" frame height.
Cool, how did you do it?
Do you have any alignment issues?
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The only way youre going to get more Ground clearance is with Larger wheels / Bigger tires.
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The only way youre going to get more Ground clearance is with Larger wheels / Bigger tires.
I think that picture above disagrees with you...

7" clearance with 15" steel wheels requires something.


I saw pics of some guys in FLA with 26" wheels; that would do it, until the suspension calls it quits.

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I saw pics of some guys in FLA with 26" wheels
On a T bird or do you mean on a car? Some of those guys will just drop a car body on a truck frame - Pow! Instant lift. But I don't want to go that far. Maybe just 28 or 29 inch tall tires. Something that will laugh at potholes.
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There's something I like about a mild "donk".

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WTF is a Donk? and that is one of the ugliest things i have ever seen

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In your other thread I posted the tires I used. The front were 26.xx tall and the rear were 28.xx tall. If you need more than you need a truck. I had no problem with speed bumps or pot holes. Evan went off road a couple of times.
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PLEASE don't encourage donk-ism...especially on the MN12...do you realize how lucky we are that these cars have not caught on with that....crowd????!?!? Please don't let them see the uhh....."potential"

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In your other thread I posted the tires I used. The front were 26.xx tall and the rear were 28.xx tall. If you need more than you need a truck. I had no problem with speed bumps or pot holes.
Yeah, but I want a taller front tire as well. That's the hard part, getting past that spindle bolt.
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PLEASE don't encourage donk-ism...especially on the MN12...do you realize how lucky we are that these cars have not caught on with that....crowd????!?!? Please don't let them see the uhh....."potential"
Solid rear axle cars are much easier to lift so I doubt T-birds will ever catch on.
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I've seen T-Birds set up the way the blue one is. Got close enough to know it did not use a straight axle on it. The front tires I used cleared the front suspension. They were not real wide thou. The fronts were 26.9.
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I think that picture above disagrees with you...

7" clearance with 15" steel wheels requires something.
It actually proves my point - the 15" wheel has a TALLER tire, which makes for more ground clearance.

I do have a Tbird with about 7.5 - 8" ground clearance at the Frame's lowest point, it also has 17" with 255/50 tires, AND the SC / Sport springs - which are 1/2" Higher than LX springs.

You want more ground clearance .. bigger tires / wheels. I suppose you could put in a Longer springs if you can find them or a Spacer between the upper mount / body might work, but that is only a theory I have - the suspension was initially designed to stay within a "comfortable driving range".

Lose a LOT of weight in the car and it will sit higher.

OR, Install an Air suspension or Hydraulics if you want more lift.
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It actually proves my point - the 15" wheel has a TALLER tire, which makes for more ground clearance.
No, I have had 225 75/15 tires on, and there still wasn't 7" of clearance... A possum does not clear with 225-60/15 tires, lol.

Tbirdtess, are you running tall tires or did you jack it up some?

I think the thread with the pics is here somewhere; those 26" tires/wheels look pretty stupid, IMHO.

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No, I have had 225 75/15 tires on, and there still wasn't 7" of clearance... A possum does not clear with 225-60/15 tires, lol.

Yall must have some Tall possums. I use a Tape measure to measure mine.

Like I mentioned above .. SC springs, less weight and taller tires WILL make your car sit higher. Take the engine out of your front end and tell me the front end is not taller.
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I have heavier springs for racing. 600lb or so. They are shorter so a couple of spacers. But still on the spring/shock unit.

I redrilled the upper control arms, Mostly to gain camber. Both sides.
RF strut rod pulled forward for more caster.

I have the rear spring isolators in upside down. Kinda like a spacer
(the isolators from mn12performance), they are taller than stock.
5" X 12" they don't fit the lower all the way.

I also only have a role cage & lead in my car. Need 3400lb.
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We are running Hoosier racing recaps, by towel city.
They are meaty. Taller than what we used to run(225/70-15)
the RF is 87 1/4" around. lefts are 86 1/4"
They almost fit under the fenders. lol
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I have heavier springs for racing. 600lb or so. They are shorter so a couple of spacers. But still on the spring/shock unit.

I redrilled the upper control arms, Mostly to gain camber. Both sides.
RF strut rod pulled forward for more caster.

I have the rear spring isolators in upside down. Kinda like a spacer
(the isolators from mn12performance), they are taller than stock.
5" X 12" they don't fit the lower all the way.

We are running Hoosier racing recaps, by towel city.
They are meaty. Taller than what we used to run(225/70-15)
the RF is 87 1/4" around. lefts are 86 1/4"
They almost fit under the fenders. lol
Yes, there is some rubbing

OK, I can see how your cars stands so much taller than mine do.

I have Sport springs on the Red Cougar; it stands noticeably taller than the black one. ~3/4" maybe. And yes, it is much taller with the engine out, lol.

I'd love to have some nice 17s or 18s, to clear big brakes; I don't need to be able to change the oil without ramps, lol. I just haven't seen any wheels I like yet.

Ruining the steering geometry with a large diameter wheel is not something I'll be doing; these cars handle too well for that.

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ive seen what the donk crowd use
i saw 04 crown vic with huge rims like 26's and asked they guy how he does it
he said theyre just spacers he showed me i looked at it ant looks like a knob jammed in his springs he said you just put them in and twist it and it spreads the spring wider he had 2 on each spring and he said he didnt do anything else, i asked
he didnt seemed to mechanically inclined to do anything else he was a "gangster thug"

oh and there's like a donk t-bird crew around here somewhere i saw like 3 at walmart like them
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lol yeah those things are crap, but they do give you more height, with less spring since those two coils are now linked with spacers. They wouldnt give you any height in the front, unfortunately. I have been thinking about this off and on for years. I think that some sort of spacer between the shock mount and shock tower would be a good place to lift. Another would be to have a very strong bracket that would bolt in between the front LCA and the shock (would require drilling a hole in the brackets on the shock. Yes, 2" would be awesome for crawling gravel roads and driving on highways and in town in general. I never scrape anymore since I went back to stock springs in the front. I think a lift would totally screw up the excellent handling that it has stock. Just my $0.02.
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On a T bird or do you mean on a car? Some of those guys will just drop a car body on a truck frame - Pow! Instant lift. But I don't want to go that far. Maybe just 28 or 29 inch tall tires. Something that will laugh at potholes.
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If I saw one.. Ide also do what he wud do.. Birds don't need 2 look like a donk!! They need 2 look muscular and mean!!!

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