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Vogtland Suspension Kit

http://www.vogtlandsuspension.com/p367/Ford-Thunder-Bird,-SC,-V8--Suspension-Kits-|-89---98/product_info.html

Curious if anyone knows anything about this kit its about one hundred dollars cheaper than just getting the 1.6 drop springs and koni adjustable shocks. Input?
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-22-2010, 05:22 PM
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http://lightningmotorsports.com/i-56665.aspx

I got these. They are a lil cheaper.

Oh my goodness!!!!
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I got these. They are a lil cheaper.
Do you like the springs? Did you have Sport of LX springs before?

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LX. And yes!

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I personally would not bother with the kit. I'm using Vogtland 0.75: drop from Super Coupe Performance with Koni adjustables - on both of my 96 TBirds. One was a base model, the other a sport. My 93 had 1.5" Eibachs with Bilsteins. It depends on what you are after, but I would never put 1.5 drop springs in my car.

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I got these. They are a lil cheaper.
Tokico's are crap. I was not happy when I had them on my car. As for the Vogtland shocks, I have not tried them. I do have their 3/4" drop on my car and they are like the sport springs which is nice. My car is currently running Sport shocks on the Front and Bilsteins on the rear and it handles well.

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So do yall have anything against the 1.6 drop springs, and TGJ what did you not like about the tokicos?
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So do yall have anything against the 1.6 drop springs, and TGJ what did you not like about the tokicos?
The car felt loose & non-responsive to driver input compared to the Sport Suspension it replaced. The ride quality was not up to par either.

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I'd completely disagree. I had Tokico blue's and Eibach's on my Bird before and loved the ride, look, and how they handled.

I've got Intrax springs now and cheap-o shocks now. The ride is more soft, and I can't really compare handling yet since the car is in desperate need of alignment. The rear's sit perfect, but the front is still high, so I'll be taking some off of the springs.

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I've been looking at the kit the op mentioned and was wondering if anyone has used this kit? Never did get a real answer to his question?
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Some one will have to buy the kit and tell us their experience with it; as far as I know no one here has any experience with this kit. Some of us have the Vogtland springs. But no one has the springs AND the Vogtland shocks.

An interesting note on the linked Vogtland page states "ID=In Development [ no product #]" S

Personally, I have the 1.6" Vogtlands. Bilsteins in back and '97 Tbird Sport shocks in front. The ride is harsh but the handling is amazing. The car corners on rails. It's obviously a trade off. Do you want comfort or handling?

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Apparently the Vogtland shocks are made by Tokico. If that is indeed the case, I would just buy the Vogtland Springs and buy a good set of shocks like Koni...

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I'm looking for a stiff set of springs. Does anyone know if the Vogtlands are stiffer than the Eibach's?

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I'm looking for a stiff set of springs. Does anyone know if the Vogtlands are stiffer than the Eibach's?
Yes, the Vogtland springs are stiffer, IMO, the Vogtland springs are the best after market springs available for these cars...

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I am thinking of Vogtland 1.5" drop springs...
My car is a sport.

I have a set of FRONT OEM sports shocks in good condition, but idk what to do about rears...
any suggestions ?
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Get the Bilsteins that we've been talking about for the back.

Here's a link to the sticky at the top of the suspension forum discussing the Bilsteins.

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=105250

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