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03-04 Bilstein Cobra Vert shocks

I searched and search and searched...I possibly got the answers but I Just want to make sure...

These will bolt right in place of my stock rear shocks? Looks like I need the nut that they attach with at the top (inside the trunk) ?? Do I need anything else to make this work?

My KYB's are absolutely done from the car being slammed....the adjustable KONI's up front seem to still be fine though....

thanks for any help with this...and if anybody has a set of these for sale cheap...

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There's a sticky on this at the top of this forum.

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=105250

Yes they will bolt right in place.

No you won't need the nut. The new shocks come with one.

No you won't need anything else to make this work. The new shocks come with the bushings you'll need.




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Right on !! Sorry for not seeing the sticky...does the car handle better with these shocks? How rough is the ride out back?

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Right on !! Sorry for not seeing the sticky...does the car handle better with these shocks? How rough is the ride out back?
I re-used the Tbird upper shock mounts on the Cobra shocks - they would wiggle loose with the Mustang bushing. I also had to make a sleeve to go between the shock thread and the Tbird bushing - there was about .100" difference to take up the slack.
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I re-used the Tbird upper shock mounts on the Cobra shocks - they would wiggle loose with the Mustang bushing. I also had to make a sleeve to go between the shock thread and the Tbird bushing - there was about .100" difference to take up the slack.
Which end of the shock are you referring to?

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Which end of the shock are you referring to?
The stud that passes through the body into the trunk. It is a smaller diameter than the Tbird shocks.

If you use the Mustang bushing mount - the rubber does not fit in the hole completely. If you use the Tbird mount, the stud is loose inside the bushing .. they will work either way, but you may hear a "clunk" sound over bumps ..
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The stud that passes through the body into the trunk. It is a smaller diameter than the Tbird shocks.

If you use the Mustang bushing mount - the rubber does not fit in the hole completely. If you use the Tbird mount, the stud is loose inside the bushing .. they will work either way, but you may hear a "clunk" sound over bumps ..
What can I use as an adaptor to take up the slack and make it snug?

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I re-used the Tbird upper shock mounts on the Cobra shocks - they would wiggle loose with the Mustang bushing. I also had to make a sleeve to go between the shock thread and the Tbird bushing - there was about .100" difference to take up the slack.
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Which end of the shock are you referring to?
Which part of upper did you not understand?

Come on Earl....

As far as the problem that SCTbird1994 describes; I have not had any issues with mine. I have no "clunk" and no spacer on mine. Just tighten the nut to the proper torque (14 to 26 FT LBS). It comes with a locking nut so the nut will not back off. To be honest with you, I don't think I even torqued mine. I just tightened the nut until the bushing began to compress then backed it off just a bit. Due to the length of the stud you'll need a deep socket (See Below). Don't try to torque it with a crows foot. Due to the offset the yeild to torque will not be accurate.

I had bought the poly upper mounts from Super Coupe Performance but didn't need them when the shocks arrived with their own set of rubber mounts. I sold the poly mounts.

What I'm saying is, in my experience, you don't need an adapter. Just install them correctly.

I'd like to see a picture of SCTbird1994's install to see what he used as an adapter and how his is installed.


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Oh man...I am just not with it at all today...thanks for all the help really. Gonna order these in a couple days

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I'd like to see a picture of SCTbird1994's install to see what he used as an adapter and how his is installed.

.. used to have a picture online, I cant seem to find it.

What I did was take a strip of aluminum sheet, cut it to the length of the bushing, rolled it around a socket to form the shape, trimmed it so its a split cut bushing, no overlap - it is just thick enough to take up the slack between the Tbird bushing and the Cobra shock stud.
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.. used to have a picture online, I cant seem to find it.

What I did was take a strip of aluminum sheet, cut it to the length of the bushing, rolled it around a socket to form the shape, trimmed it so its a split cut bushing, no overlap - it is just thick enough to take up the slack between the Tbird bushing and the Cobra shock stud.
Perfect - thanks for the idea

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I just ordered a set from shockwherehouse should be here this week, gonna be real nice

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I think you'll be real pleased with them. They've gone up in price a little in the past three years since I bought mine. But hey, you still get free shipping.

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Ugh, well jeez...I placed mjy order online with shockwherehouse on MONDAY...as of this morning they still had not processed payment, shipped anything, etc.

So I call them, and I am told "oh we don't have those parts in stock and we won't ship them for at least two more weeks"

I told them to cancel my order...online status DOES NOT show it as cancelled...

I called Summitt, and they said that they would have the item drop shipped directly from Bilsteion and if we did that, I would have it in 3 to 7 days I said no, since I'm not sure if shockwarehouse will end up charging and shipping anyway, and I don't wanna get charged twice/pay twice

Then I went onto Summitt again this afternoon, and almost bought koni adjustables for the rear, to match the front...they won't ship them until mid october, WTF?!?

It seems the only shocks I can get, in a reasonable amount of time, would be monroe, or another set of KYB....

Got my UCA/LCA from rockauto today...still none of this does me any good until springs show hopefully tomorrow....

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It's not going to kill you to wait two weeks for Shockwarehouse to get the Bilsteins in stock.

They were doing you a favor not to process payment until the order actually shipped.

Good parts are worth waiting for; that's also why you couldn't get the Koni adjustables until Mid October.

I had to wait six weeks for my Vogtland springs. You're not the only one.

Patients is a virtue. Call Shockwarehouse and tell them you're willing to wait. You can still swap the springs and add the shocks later.

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Yeah, I hear you on that...I didn't think there would be such a long wait...normally, I order something, it shows up...I might order from Summitt instead on these, not sure yet. Or I might do Koni adjustables back there...after seeing the price on them, they're not really much more than the Bilsteins.

Interesting side note, my UCA's/LCA's showed up today...both uppers are MOOG with zerk fittings, one lower is MOOG with a zerk, the other is a sealed TRW...oh well...the sealed lower did not come with a cotter pin, the greasable lower, however, did.

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Don't they have them in stock at shox.com? I might my bilstein shocks for my Aspen from there at ~$260 for all four and they are awesome. Makes the Aspen ride more like my Sport Trac did, rather than a damn Hyundai.

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