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Inner bolt on LCA

OK, so, I got the knuckle to LCA bolts out, shock bolt out, and rear LCA is hanging...I also removed the cut stock spring, this is on the drivers side rear...I cannot for the life of me, get the inner LCA bolts to budge, STANDING on a breaker bar, and not a thing, they won't move....

However, I can push the LCA down, having NOT loosened the inner bolts at all, what seems to be far enough to put the spring in, but at that point, it seems like a two person job...any suggestions on how to get this done without another person?

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Do you not have any friends? lol
If you have somthing to put your back against you could put your foot or feet on the LCA's and push them down and with your hands reach in and pull the springs out. Or try taking a long 2-3 foot long pipe and stand on it, reach in and pull the spring out... OR just cut the springs in half since your replacing them with stock springs right?
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Do you not have any friends? lol
If you have somthing to put your back against you could put your foot or feet on the LCA's and push them down and with your hands reach in and pull the springs out. Or try taking a long 2-3 foot long pipe and stand on it, reach in and pull the spring out... OR just cut the springs in half since your replacing them with stock springs right?
I don't have any friends. Seriously, I don't, I just moved here, I don't know anybody yet... On that note, if anybody wants to take pity on me, and come over, and allow me to buy their friendship with beer, I would be very greatful

Getting the cut spring(s) OUT on the rear, is not a problem, I already have them out. I am trying to get the stock springs in...

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Tape the isolators to the springs in a couple of places.

Put the top of the spring/isolator in first, stand on the LCA, and then put the bottom of the spring/isolator in place.

BTW, You should loosen, but not remove, the inner LCA bolts. If not, you run the risk of damaging the bushings.

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Tape the isolators to the springs in a couple of places.

Put the top of the spring/isolator in first, stand on the LCA, and then put the bottom of the spring/isolator in place.

BTW, You should loosen, but not remove, the inner LCA bolts. If not, you run the risk of damaging the bushings.
Yeah I cannot get them loose-they aren't reverse threaded are they? Pushing breaker bar /wrench/etc. Toward ground (left) is correct isn't it? I really need an impact to break these loose I think

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Yeah I cannot get them loose-they aren't reverse threaded are they? Pushing breaker bar /wrench/etc. Toward ground (left) is correct isn't it? I really need an impact to break these loose I think
Lefty loosey/righty tighty

Spray the **** out of them with PB Blaster and give it some time to work.

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Lefty loosey/righty tighty

Spray the **** out of them with PB Blaster and give it some time to work.
I will spray them before work....most every other bolt so far hasn't even been that tight....I am also thinking about a longer breaker bar...right now I only have an 18"

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Sit on the ground with one foot on the lower control arm, push it down hard. Worked for me several times.

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Just as long as you don't push the car off the jackstand.

Honestly, I have found that I can generate the most power with the breaker bar parallel to the ground and oriented so that up for me is CCW for the fastener. Lift with the knees. That should give you plenty of power to either loosen the fastener, break the fastener, or snap the head off the breaker bar.

Obviously, only one of those outcomes is ideal, but hey, something has to give.

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I will spray them before work....most every other bolt so far hasn't even been that tight....I am also thinking about a longer breaker bar...right now I only have an 18"
They are tightened down to about 200 ft lbs, so they will take some effort .. you'll need to be able to torque them back to spec afterwards.

I cant do it with a breaker bar either for some reason .. I use an 18 inch crescent wrench to remove these big nuts ..
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For me, that bolt snapped in about five seconds with a breaker bar and the car on a lift. You'll probably be going to a dealer to get that bolt, and I believe it was $30 when I got it.
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interesting...how would a crescent make things easier than a breaker?

I was looking at picking up an impact and a compressor large enough to run it...I've already spent a couple hundred on misc. hand tools for this, I could easilly end up spening equal to, or more than it would cost to just have it done at work...so, I'll just open up my wallet for this one, I'm thinking....if I had proper air tools to get the job done, it would be a different story...but for now, I don't...oh, and the torque wrench I picked up, probably doesn't go high enough to get those inner bolts torqued back to spec....so anyway....I just HATE taking the car to a shop for anything...oh well.

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I was able to remove my spring and install my springs without touching the inner lca bolts, just slam the arm down with your foot and tape the isolators to the springs and slide them in.

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I was able to remove my spring and install my springs without touching the inner lca bolts, just slam the arm down with your foot and tape the isolators to the springs and slide them in.
X2. The rear springs are the easy ones, pulling the whole arm just makes it needlessly complicated.

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You should def buy a high quality impact. I got a snap-on 1/2" impact that will take that bolt right off Whenever I do suspension work, I spray the bolts down a week prior, every day, and they usually come out like butter.

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X2. The rear springs are the easy ones, pulling the whole arm just makes it needlessly complicated.
Well, I am not pulling the whole arm, I just need to loosen the inner bolts, so that I can get it pushed down far enough to get the stock spring in there...

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You should def buy a high quality impact. I got a snap-on 1/2" impact that will take that bolt right off Whenever I do suspension work, I spray the bolts down a week prior, every day, and they usually come out like butter.
Yeah, I'm not sure what to do...if I take it to a shop it's big big big money to have the springs swapped and the front UCA/LCA's replaced....the only thing stopping me from doing it myself, is that I need an impact, and a compressor large enough to get it loose....and that's big money as well....gotta get the car fixed up right ASAP....drove it about 10 miles today, for the first time in a month, and the car is just wonderful to drive....just too low, gotta fix this....

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Either way its more effort than needed, even a weakling like me has no problem pushing down on the arm with one leg and shoving the spring/isolators between the perches

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Either way its more effort than needed, even a weakling like me has no problem pushing down on the arm with one leg and shoving the spring/isolators between the perches
Yeah, but what kinda spring? Stock sc springs are super long...

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Yeah, but what kinda spring? Stock sc springs are super long...
.. you just need to push the LCA down until it almost touches the ground. Use your arms to grab the inside of the wheel well, and pull up with your arms while you push down with your feet and legs to push that LCA down .. it should go.

You should have had your buddy help you while you were still in Cali.
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.. you just need to push the LCA down until it almost touches the ground. Use your arms to grab the inside of the wheel well, and pull up with your arms while you push down with your feet and legs to push that LCA down .. it should go.
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I also did the "use your feet to push the LCA down to insert the spring" method.

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.. you just need to push the LCA down until it almost touches the ground. Use your arms to grab the inside of the wheel well, and pull up with your arms while you push down with your feet and legs to push that LCA down .. it should go.

You should have had your buddy help you while you were still in Cali.
Yeah I tried that...it seems that a third, or even a fourth arm would have helped...

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Yeah I tried that...it seems that a third, or even a fourth arm would have helped...
or a crow bar .. stick it in one of the lower spring coils against the lower bumpstop on the LCA .. when you push down on the LCA you can use the bar to pry it over the bumpstop ?? ...

Use at your own risk .. I dont want to be responsible if you get whacked from a spring loaded crow bar.
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or a crow bar .. stick it in one of the lower spring coils against the lower bumpstop on the LCA .. when you push down on the LCA you can use the bar to pry it over the bumpstop ?? ...

Use at your own risk .. I dont want to be responsible if you get whacked from a spring loaded crow bar.
Good advice....and if I screw up it's my fault...

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