Upper ball joint boots needed. - TCCoA Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-19-2010, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
3rd Gear Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: california
Age: 70
Posts: 184
Upper ball joint boots needed.

Ok , both our T-birds have cracked-out upper ball joint boots. Does anybody recommend a brand with part number for a replacement? It looks like Energy Suspension doesn't really make a set specifically for Thunderbirds, so what part
(w/number) would most likely still work well? Also, my daughter's bird has a minor amount of play in the passenger upper ( almost can't even see it move ), can a packing of grease and a new boot keep the car going for many miles to come?
Keep in mind that she is not looking for optimum performance, just safe smooth road transportation until things really need replacement. thanks , edman
edman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-19-2010, 02:37 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Cullman, AL
Age: 56
Posts: 7,758
Send a message via AIM to 94 Daily Driven 4.6L
IMHO, the best bet is to replace the upper A arms. If you can see it move while it is bolted up I would suspect it is shot. I think you will find that when you unbolt everything the stud will flop around and is way too loose.

New arms are $35 to $60 (depending on brand) each from RockAuto (don't forget about the 5% discount).
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1283584

And they aren't all that difficult to do. These cars are notorious for the ball joints going bad. Bad things happen when they fail.

But just my .02.

97 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC (Chip'd, 3.73 T/L... so far... )
97 Ford Aspire (Slow, but getting 36 mpg (f'n Ethenol!! )
84 F250 Dually w/6.9L Diesel (7.3L IDI pending)
73 Mercury Cougar Convertible w/351C 4V (Partially Restored)
69 F100 LWB w/460 Engine
76 Glastron Carlson 23' Jet Boat w/460 CJ Engine
94 Daily Driven 4.6L is offline  
post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-19-2010, 02:47 PM
Humble MN12 Genius
Super Moderator
 
XR7-4.6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Roselle IL
Posts: 16,660
Garage
Send a message via Yahoo to XR7-4.6
Agreed, and cracked boots are usually what kills them. Grease comes out, debris comes in, and that spells disaster.

-Matt
XR7-4.6 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-19-2010, 02:55 PM
Voice/Data Guru
 
Boston-Bull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Grapevine TX
Posts: 7,781
Polyureathane boots. Bottom of page. This is good protection IMHO

http://www.robstireandauto.com/products.html

2017 Mustang GT 5.0L 2nd gen, cold air box,tune,6 speed auto,RGR 3.31, Magnaflow Tru X-pipe ,GT350RStrips
Gray Mustang Registry # 8582


Boston-Bull is offline  
post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-19-2010, 09:07 PM
Rob
Seasoned PostWhore
 
Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Hubbard, TX
Age: 37
Posts: 3,902
Send a message via AIM to Rob
^^^Cool I didnt know those were available. On a side note, I got one of those Help! tie rod boots one time and i dont think it totally kept things sealed, just most of it. The boots available on the above site may do much better!

-Rob
RIP '94 Amber Fire Pearl Metallic Thunderbird on Bullitts [email protected]
96 Sport '02 Explorer PI with ported heads, 90MM LMAF, DirtyDog Marauder TC, Lasota tune, Jmod, Magnaflow mid-mount with X, no cats. Urethane drivers motor mount. HIDs!
Rob is offline  
post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-19-2010, 11:27 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: fairless hills
Age: 76
Posts: 198
Send a message via Yahoo to ThunderRoad
Cool I Used Silocon Elc Tape

The One That Strecks Wrapped Tight Then Use 3m Plastic Elc Tape Around That Then Spray With Rubber Undercoating Has Held Up For 2 Years Now:d
ThunderRoad is offline  
post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-20-2010, 09:42 AM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: carthage
Age: 38
Posts: 2,435
Send a message via AIM to RobertP
the boots above do a great job at keeping dirt out and you can feel them with grease before installion

Robert

www.robstireandauto.com for all your car needs and parts
95 bird corn powered 735rwhp and 580 tq
86 bird vortech s trim
10.75 @128.38
95 bird - Vortech t trim
9.98 worlds fastest IRS 4.6 thunderbird
1/8 [email protected]
10.11 @ 139.19 best mph
1.47 best 60ft if I can get a full pass with this 60ftt
All made possible with Braincoating'ôs ported manifolds
RobertP is offline  
post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-20-2010, 09:25 PM
PostWhore
 
sousa632's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Forked River, NJ
Age: 40
Posts: 1,573
I have a new Raybestos passanger UCA that I bought and never installed. If you are interested let me know.

John
1996 TBird LX 4.6
2001 Sable Wagon 3.0 Duratec
sousa632 is offline  
post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 06:30 PM
It is nice
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Arizona
Age: 37
Posts: 885
I would recommend replacing the whole arm with new ball joints if the ball joints are on the way out. Those polyurethane covers are not a good choice on old ball joints.

1997 Ford Thunderbird LX 4.6L (WT): Removed Air Silencer. PBR Brake Upgrade. J-MOD. Silverstar Headlights. Vogtland Springs 1.6". Front Sport Shocks/ Back KYB's. PI Cams. Xcal2 by Lonnie.
1991 Mercury Cougar LS 3.8L: SOLD
91CougarLS is offline  
post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 06:44 PM
Voice/Data Guru
 
Boston-Bull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Grapevine TX
Posts: 7,781
Quote:
Originally Posted by 91CougarLS View Post
I would recommend replacing the whole arm with new ball joints if the ball joints are on the way out. Those polyurethane covers are not a good choice on old ball joints.
True , But the boots are also good protection for new or used joints , I have them installed and know first hand

2017 Mustang GT 5.0L 2nd gen, cold air box,tune,6 speed auto,RGR 3.31, Magnaflow Tru X-pipe ,GT350RStrips
Gray Mustang Registry # 8582


Boston-Bull is offline  
post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-21-2010, 07:57 PM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: carthage
Age: 38
Posts: 2,435
Send a message via AIM to RobertP
Here's the deal, these boots are great insurance if you have caught the boot as it starts tearing, this is not for a worn out upper ball joint, this is to keep the ball joint that's still in good shape to stay in shape for a very long time if you need a set or 2 hit me up

Robert

www.robstireandauto.com for all your car needs and parts
95 bird corn powered 735rwhp and 580 tq
86 bird vortech s trim
10.75 @128.38
95 bird - Vortech t trim
9.98 worlds fastest IRS 4.6 thunderbird
1/8 [email protected]
10.11 @ 139.19 best mph
1.47 best 60ft if I can get a full pass with this 60ftt
All made possible with Braincoating'ôs ported manifolds
RobertP is offline  
post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-10-2010, 11:31 PM
PostWhore
 
CrystalPistol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Shenandoah Valley
Age: 65
Posts: 1,032
Quote:
Originally Posted by 91CougarLS View Post
I would recommend replacing the whole arm with new ball joints if the ball joints are on the way out. Those polyurethane covers are not a good choice on old ball joints.
Well, my '95's ball joints seemed tight, miles just over 64K, but boots were badly torn / deteriorated. I wanted to save them from the elements.

So today I took a few minutes and raised her up and puled the front wheels and pulled the pinch bolt and pulled the torn stock boots wondering if they were going to be loose.

I removed the metal retainer rings and remnants of original boots with the aid of small dykes ... and then removed the soft inner sleeve (that seemed to hinder the new ones sliding up into position ... the stock bioot had a metal lower ring and fit around it's base .... these are thicker and fit snuggly) and cleaned the joints of old grease and checked them for movement (it was smooth) and play (there was none) slipped the new red boots in place, then before pushing all the way up I filled them with grease, then pushed up and reinstall stud into knuckle and pinch bolt and torqued and put wheels on and wiped the excess grease that had oozed out away .... done.

Originals had TRW and 10-62134 molded in them, couldn't find them on the net.

The new ones did fit well. They should hold grease in and weather out.

A fine pair ... ... and whatever you do, Have a Safe Trip!

Last edited by CrystalPistol; 11-10-2010 at 11:40 PM.
CrystalPistol is offline  
post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-11-2010, 07:37 AM
Seasoned PostWhore
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: carthage
Age: 38
Posts: 2,435
Send a message via AIM to RobertP
Yeap I told you guys there are really a nice fit, heck there on my car

Robert

www.robstireandauto.com for all your car needs and parts
95 bird corn powered 735rwhp and 580 tq
86 bird vortech s trim
10.75 @128.38
95 bird - Vortech t trim
9.98 worlds fastest IRS 4.6 thunderbird
1/8 [email protected]
10.11 @ 139.19 best mph
1.47 best 60ft if I can get a full pass with this 60ftt
All made possible with Braincoating'ôs ported manifolds
RobertP is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TCCoA Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome