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Aww man guys,...i was driving down the road doing about 80mph on cruise control then all i heard was BOOM! clunk clunk clunk GRIND! lol barely got the bird under control slowed down pulled over and see this! dam, i was hoping to get away with not replacing my passenger side suspension till the spring, but i guess not. had to call a tow truck, had to pay a $150 tow bill now i got to do some labor in the cold driveway! gotta get a new lower control arm lol, lower ball joint broke.







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I had the same thing happen a few months ago, except I was only doing 10 or so turning from an intersection. Definitely a sure fire way to ruin your day lol. Glad nobody got hurt though.
Also might want to get that wheel balanced or replaced. I was only going 10 or so and the control arm ground on the wheel pretty good (not BAD but enough to go, ouch) I can only imagine what yours would look like if you were going 80.

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I had the same thing happen a few months ago, except I was only doing 10 or so turning from an intersection. Definitely a sure fire way to ruin your day lol. Glad nobody got hurt though.
Also might want to get that wheel balanced or replaced. I was only going 10 or so and the control arm ground on the wheel pretty good (not BAD but enough to go, ouch) I can only imagine what yours would look like if you were going 80.
yea its sucks! i just bought new indy 500s and it rubbed on the inside of my fenderwell pretty good, and the control arm was scraping on the inside of my rim! hope it aint serious lol
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Looks like it crunched the fender a bit too...nice car, love those white letter tires
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Looks like it crunched the fender a bit too...nice car, love those white letter tires
id be pissed if it did lol, naw i went into the store one evening and came out to that! thats next on my list of fixes lol
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Ditch the mirror tint for some solid black...half mirror tint reminds me of Eric cartman's "respect my authotitiy" glasses....are those pre 96 tails on that car?
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Ditch the mirror tint for some solid black...half mirror tint reminds me of Eric cartman's "respect my authotitiy" glasses....are those pre 96 tails on that car?
i personally love my fader tint, it adds a unique taste to the car, i dont wanna be like every other car with "black tint" know what i mean? to each his own i guess lol,...and yea their pre-96...my originals were VHT tinted but i got a fine for them being to dark so i bought these ones off of "Big Ed H" they look good,i like them alot better then the full red ones.
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This may have just convinced me to put in all the suspension I have laying around... ouch


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What's "juggalo" mean? Do you mean Gigalo, as in male hooker? lol
lol, good one...no i dont mean gigalo,..Juggalo is a term that the band and their record label "Insane Clown Posse/Psychopathic Records" has given to their fans,....kinda like deadheads were for the band "The grateful dead" in the 70's.
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If it makes you feel better I knew what your name meant.."Native" meaning Native American and "Juggalo" meaning ICP fan....Here have some Faygo!..lol



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Same thing happened to me about 9 years ago. I got lucky and was in a parking lot. It felt like slow motion - right front seemed to go up and then *bam* down it went. Also rubbed the inside of the rim and left a mark all the way around.

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i personally love my fader tint, it adds a unique taste to the car, i dont wanna be like every other car with "black tint" know what i mean? to each his own i guess lol,...and yea their pre-96...my originals were VHT tinted but i got a fine for them being to dark so i bought these ones off of "Big Ed H" they look good,i like them alot better then the full red ones.
I agree - I really do like the look of the car.

And also noticed you're from SoDak Too bad you're on the opposite side of the state. I'm from eastern Nebraska.

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If it makes you feel better I knew what your name meant.."Native" meaning Native American and "Juggalo" meaning ICP fan....Here have some Faygo!..lol
lol, EXACTLY! i am a member of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, & A Juggalo lol....ooo man rayo if they sold faygo around here i'd buy that stuff everyday instead of pepsi products haha.

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alright! peeps, i got the bird done today, it woulda been done long time ago but the shockmount to lca bolt was seized in there so i ended up cutting the head of the bolt off and just getting a regular grade 8 bolt(temporary fix)...fighting through snow and cold weather but i got her going!...now just waiting to put my springs&shocks on for my alignment. just thought i'd keep u guys posted.

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After seeing this post, I am replacing mine too! Been driving reallly easy this past week. Do you have to compress the spring while changing the arm?

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After seeing this post, I am replacing mine too! Been driving reallly easy this past week. Do you have to compress the spring while changing the arm?
No you dont have to touch the spring while doing the UCA/LCA, Sway Bar End Links, tie rod ends & Strut Rod Bushings. When i did mine i simply took off the nut for the lower ball joint and popped that out, removed the nut for the strut rod bushings, had a FUN time removing the lower shock mount to LCA bolt because it was seized in there... alot of PB blaster and a hammer will do the trick, if not them just cut the head off and pop it through the other side with a punch. Now when you remove the camber adjustment bolt (the bolt that hold the LCA to the frame) remember that it has a concentric washer...it has to line up perfectly for the bolt to slide out right or else it wont come out, the washer & bolt have a Flat edge...shaped like a "D"..and they have to be lined up to slide out...thought i'd let you know and save you a $20 bolt...lol i had to buy a new one becuz i hammered to so bad i messed up the threads before i realized it.
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I shoulda thought of this earlier.......I just HAD to throw this out there....LOL


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Guys, take this piece of advise.

Get the car up in the air, and inspect your suspension components at least twice a year.

The upper balljoints and lower balljoints go bad pretty frequently in these cars. I have seen MANY upper balljoints break on these things.

My dad had a 90 tbird beater for a while, he was making a low speed turn near our house, the front wheel caved in and he nearly ended up driving the car into a GRAVEYARD.

Buy the entire arm, its a pain in the rear end to press joints out of the arms. Plus if you get an arm, you get new bushings also.
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Guys, take this piece of advise.

Get the car up in the air, and inspect your suspension components at least twice a year.

The upper balljoints and lower balljoints go bad pretty frequently in these cars. I have seen MANY upper balljoints break on these things.

My dad had a 90 tbird beater for a while, he was making a low speed turn near our house, the front wheel caved in and he nearly ended up driving the car into a GRAVEYARD.

Buy the entire arm, its a pain in the rear end to press joints out of the arms. Plus if you get an arm, you get new bushings also.
no doubt, justin, ima start doing this from now on... i learned the hard way and hope no-one else has to...take 10 minutes guys and inspect everything, itll save you alot of money in the long run.
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Quick Update Guys, My Car is back together now and here is a picture of the actual balljoint seperation, quick question... i replaced my drivers side LCA during the summer becuz it was squawking...now its squawking again lol... wth?

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Did you replace the sway-bar end links?

How bout the UCA?

Bushings?

Tie Rods?

All of this should be replaced on cars as old as the MN12 is; especially the Northern ones.

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How bout the UCA?

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All of this should be replaced on cars as old as the MN12 is; especially the Northern ones.
yup, i replaced the UCA,LCA,Outer Tie Rod End & Sway Bar Links, strut rod bushings/tension strut bushings all at the same time. but now when im idling and i turn my wheel side to side it squawks! lol same noise it did before i changed em.
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Flush and change the Power Steering fluid?

Check the level it may be low.

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lol, EXACTLY! i am a member of the Oglala Sioux Tribe, & A Juggalo lol....ooo man rayo if they sold faygo around here i'd buy that stuff everyday instead of pepsi products haha.

@ Melon - Aww Man, you are way on the otherside! dammit, should been closer you could help me with my LCA & J-Mod lol.

Whatcha know about that FAYGO!!! Man.... I need some Mountain Mist! LOL.

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Lube the ball joints and see if the squawking goes away. Clearly your broken joint had NO grease in it any longer. If your new joints are ungreasable type go get a grease needle from autozone. Just poke it thru the boot and grease away. If that doesn't stop the squawking then you need to keep searching for the problem.

Question: What brand ball joints did you install? The cheap stuff likes to break. I had a cheap ball joint go bad in 6 months. Check my picture gallery, you'll see what I mean.

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i dont think so, My LCA i got from carquest and the guy told me they are made my MOOG..it is greaseable, also the rest of my parts were all MOOG, UCA,Sway bar end links, out tie rod end with strut rod bushings from ford.

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Flush and change the Power Steering fluid?

Check the level it may be low.
i checked the fluid and its good, the sound isnt comming from the powersteering i dont think, it sounds like a squeeky suspension lol
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Whatcha know about that FAYGO!!! Man.... I need some Mountain Mist! LOL.
i love faygo bro, everytime i go down to denver,co i buy a crapload of faygo to bring back to the rez in south dakota lol...since they dont sell that greatness around here

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Lube the ball joints and see if the squawking goes away. Clearly your broken joint had NO grease in it any longer. If your new joints are ungreasable type go get a grease needle from autozone. Just poke it thru the boot and grease away. If that doesn't stop the squawking then you need to keep searching for the problem.

Question: What brand ball joints did you install? The cheap stuff likes to break. I had a cheap ball joint go bad in 6 months. Check my picture gallery, you'll see what I mean.
i bought MOOG parts and they are greaseable, i made sure they had grease fittings on them for me to grease them whenever needed. i did apply grease into them after installation, is there a specific type of grease i need to use?
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