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Merry X-mas fellow TCCoA members. Ok in trying to understand why my recently purchased 93 T-bird rides like a lowered 47 ford truck weighed down with crates of oranges I decided to come on the board and see if any one here has the same issues and how did it get solved. When I bought this little gem the previous first owner gave me a folder full of shop receipts of all the work he had done to the car over 17 years of ownership. the most recent was as far back as 2008 to present was new firestone firehawk indy 500 215/70/15's on all corners, front end service that included bushings, tie rods, brakes etc etc. shocks done in 07. In general a well maintained vehicle. So why does this car have such a jarring ride over small bumps, train tracks and so on.
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I think we'll need a bit more info. What all has been done to the suspension?

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Merry X-mas fellow TCCoA members. Ok in trying to understand why my recently purchased 93 T-bird rides like a lowered 47 ford truck weighed down with crates of oranges I decided to come on the board and see if any one here has the same issues and how did it get solved. When I bought this little gem the previous first owner gave me a folder full of shop receipts of all the work he had done to the car over 17 years of ownership. the most recent was as far back as 2008 to present was new firestone firehawk indy 500 215/70/15's on all corners, front end service that included bushings, tie rods, brakes etc etc. shocks done in 07. In general a well maintained vehicle. So why does this car have such a jarring ride over small bumps, train tracks and so on.
Definitely need more info but for a 5.0 LX to ride rough it has had a spring change. The stock suspension is very complient. Some pictures would help. I have ridden in Birds with stiff track shocks and they still aren't jarring on the stock springs. What shock is listed on your receipt? I have run Tokico Blues for over 3 years now and love them. Of course taste in shocks is individual.

Congradulations on your find and welcome!

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here we go, dated 08/01/2007 rear control arm bushings. 02/01/2008 four firestone 215/70/15 indy 500's filled with nitrogen? front rotors and pads replaced on07/18/2008, inner tie rods ends moog, set of lower control arm bushings moog on 11/12/2001, outer tie rods again on 07/26/2004, another set of bushings moog part no. k8680 on 02/17/2004, 2 lower control arm kits with balljoint part no. k8596 and uppers k80053 k80055 on 09/16/2004, Well by looking over the many reciepts I see none in regards to shocks or struts, though the previous owner said he had them changed out a couple of years back, So my next course of action will be to replace them with monroe gas matics or sensatracs and go from there.
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Definitely need more info but for a 5.0 LX to ride rough it has had a spring change. The stock suspension is very complient. Some pictures would help. I have ridden in Birds with stiff track shocks and they still aren't jarring on the stock springs. What shock is listed on your receipt? I have run Tokico Blues for over 3 years now and love them. Of course taste in shocks is individual.

Congradulations on your find and welcome!

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I had the blue's on my 93 coupe with eibacs 1.5's and The blues were great, best ride on a mustang I ever had
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I had the blue's on my 93 coupe with eibacs 1.5's and The blues were great, best ride on a mustang I ever had
I love the damping on the Blues! l'd turn up the compression a hair but haven't found anything else close. Worse ride I have had in TBird was a SC with 1.5 lowering and Bilstein shocks but I am sure that is model specific.

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So my next course of action will be to replace them with monroe gas matics or sensatracs and go from there.
Suggestion? If you want a smooth comfortable ride, don't turn down the ACDelco premium shocks.

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ACDelco premium shocks.
Where do you get them?
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Where do you get them?
RockAuto for one.

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So online only, no local places?

Are they really smooth riding like stock?
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Dang, Rockauto is having a closeout and they are gone.
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Let me add - I don't have them on my Cougar, I still am running the factory ARC setup (well, new-to-me ARC shocks, but still.)

Might want to check the parts houses around.

Me, I have a pair of the rear shocks never on the car, but am keeping those (got those on a wholesaler closeout).

My past experience has been they're nice and smooth riding, not what you'd want for maximum performance, but for comfy ride, hard to beat.

Edit: Huh. They list rears ( PN 520395 ) at $20 each, fronts (they list as struts, natch) (PN 503133 ) at under $45 each, but only one in stock. Amazon usually has a batch of ACDelco vendors, and we've got a regional named "ABC Auto Parts" that stocks most ACDelco parts.

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Actually, a 47 Ford truck loaded with oranges rides better than a 1947 Ford truck that's empty unless overloaded with them oranges so that it's bottomed out.


OK .... Seriously .....

What is the spring code on the door jamb?

Also, look at the springs. You'll want to lay on your back on smooth ground and not wearing a suit .... and take a flashlight and scoot under there.

Are they painted or powdercoated a bright color?

Any tags wrapped around them with letters on them?

Is the car lower than stock?

Lower ends of springs coated like rest of spring ... or do they look "fresh CUT"?



My '95 is a LX and has spring code L33FF .... soft springs and they are stock. Very compliant ride.
I have a set of JJJJ springs standing by to put on it with my new shocks, but it only has 71K on it now and still rides soft while controled.

My '92 is a Sport and has spring code TJJJJ .... much stiffer springs and they were stiffer before I cut them and put the Tokico Blues on. Even at 130K it was a stiffer ride.
I did not cut much so increase stiiffness was minimal, 1 coil off fronts, 5/8 coil off rears which lowered car 1-1/2 inches and made it level.


A fine pair ... ... and whatever you do, Have a Safe Trip!
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