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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-06-2011, 03:16 PM Thread Starter
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Strut rod bushing issues.

Let me start of by saying pretty much my whole front end is new within the last month. The issue im having is that the left strut rod appears to be too tight. When I make hard left hand turns the wheel rubs the inner fender. I looked into it and when the wheel is fully left it actually collapsed the frame side bushings and pulls the arm back out of the hole about 3 inches. I used the cheap blue thermo plastic bushings, or whatever they're called. Is this why everyone says not to use them or am I an exception? I made no adjustments to the arms when I did the bushings. I eyeballed the LCAs and the car drives pretty straight for now. I know I need to get it aligned but I need new tires anyway so I figured it coulld wait since it drives straight for now. The passenger tire rubs slightly too but nothing looks out of place on that side. I also grabbed a set of springs/struts out of a 94 v8 car in the junkyard cause the struts were fairly new and mine had 200k on them. I didn't think it would make a noticeable difference. Mines a 91set v8 with adjustable suspension btw. Any advise would be appreciated. Im sure I could figure it out myself but I just don't have the time to tear back into it right now.
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-06-2011, 03:31 PM
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I think it's a combination of "cheap blue thermoplastic bushings" and "I know I need to get it aligned".

Replace the front bushings with the Ford parts (HOPE you kept the ferrules!), and then get it aligned, and THEN ask abut it.

Until then, I give you this:

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Lol thanks. They've been on the car for like 200 miles. Im pretty pissed that's all I got out of them.
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Of all the effed things that have been wrong with my car, the OEM ford bushing kit I installed has never been one of them. If you didn't save the sleeves only a machine shop or some wrench skills in the junkyard can save you now. I know the bushings alone where available to buy from ford but thats not going to last. Get your set of bushings and gets some sleeves and this is the best fix period. They will last you 15 years. BY then any mn12s left with have hot rodded past this design, Id like to think LOL.

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BY then any mn12s left with have hot rodded past this design, Id like to think LOL.
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Of all the effed things that have been wrong with my car, the OEM ford bushing kit I installed has never been one of them. If you didn't save the sleeves only a machine shop or some wrench skills in the junkyard can save you now. I know the bushings alone where available to buy from ford but thats not going to last. Get your set of bushings and gets some sleeves and this is the best fix period. They will last you 15 years. BY then any mn12s left with have hot rodded past this design, Id like to think LOL.
The sleeves discintigrated lol. Im about to just weld them to the frame lol

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That's exactly the problem. I even cut the sleeves about a half inch because I noticed this when I ut them on.
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hmm I just found out my car has those cheap plastic blue bushing in there. I guess I better go get the stock hardware from the junk yard and order up some from SCP.com
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The sleeves discintigrated lol. Im about to just weld them to the frame lol
Machined sleeves or finding a member parting a car out. Once you torch out the rubber its possible to have some shop separate them for you or you can do it yourself. Basically the damn sleeves are everything here. I have a set of them that need to be separated and the ends rerolled, rust free. Not sure if you can use them but people have fixed them before.

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So Matt, are all the sets (to frame, to LCA) on Rockauto prone to this failure?

Raybestos, Mevotech, Moog? All?

IE: Mevotech...
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Im gonna check my garage again. Im pretty sure they we're pretty bad but they're sitting in a scrap pile so I know I still have them
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So Matt, are all the sets (to frame, to LCA) on Rockauto prone to this failure?

Raybestos, Mevotech, Moog? All?

IE: Mevotech...
@ frame parts

@ LCA
Yes. None of those brands seemed to do any long term real world testing, many are just repackaged as each other as well.

Though the LCA side seems to be less picky, mine's had the blue moogs since I've owned it and they're holding up great

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I have the cheap LCAs sideof the strut rod bushings from checkers and they are doing fine too.

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So I remove the OE parts I can seperate and reuse the metal parts instead of the ones that come with these kits, and this will assure these rubber/thermo-plastic/whatever, will hold up better? Or does one have to buy new motorcraft parts... and are those parts still available?

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The bushings themselves are available from Ford. They are the only true reliable option. Thermoplastic just plain doesn't work in this application regardless of hardware it seems.

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