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Where to buy Tokico?

Where can I purchase the Tokico shock and lowering spring kit for one of these cars? I see them "available" from online vendors I have never heard of, who should I go with on this? Are they still available new?

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I ordered mine way back when from shox.com

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have they held up well over the years? How is the ride quality/handling?

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Compared to what? I'd say they're about equal to sport shocks in terms of ride and firmness, compared to koni though they feel like mush. Mine feel the same now as a month after I installed them, not quite as stiff as the first month but no worse. So durability seems good.

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My rear shocks feel like they are just now breaking in years later, when I first got them I thought they were overly harsh, more likely I'm just used it it now, the fronts however felt slightly firmer then sport shocks and haven't changed in feel at all.

Also get them while you can if you can, as I hear that these are going the way of oem sports, koni's, and bilstein. The fronts are becoming near impossible to find in stock or are "back ordered" I haven't heard anything about availability of the complete kits.

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any issues with driveways and bottoming out and such with the supplied tokico springs? My konis are badly worn from the cut springs and need a rebuild, they will be up for grabs (cheap) once the tokico setup is in place

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No bottoming out issues until I cut them lol

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nope, no issues, except at the airport (speed bump mountains), town square parking complex (speed bump MT. Everest) and the sole remaining vegas west wind drive in movie theater (pot holes the size of small children). However even though all that I only have problems scraping either my super capacity transmission pan or rear torsional load brace. I no longer frequent any of those places with the bird though. The f150 is more then sufficient for those tasks, the 95 with stock suspension scraped all of those places also for what its worth.

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Gordon (supergordo) bought his about 2 years before mine though and according to him his are shot.... I do very spirited driving daily and mine have held up very well. (knocking on wood)

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Sounds like this is the best solution for my car then...getting the new lower door hinge installed in a couple weeks, then shocks/springs, then exhaust, then paint I noticed the 95 is gone from your sig, does that mean it's gone now?

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I think Tokico may have improved their quality in the last 7 or 8 years or so, or had a bad batch as I've heard about MANY premature failures of the shocks here and elsewhere, some wearing out after less than a year. I too haven't been kind to mine and they still feel good. I was expecting them to fail since I broke them in 5 years ago, but nope.

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I think Tokico may have improved their quality in the last 7 or 8 years or so, or had a bad batch as I've heard about MANY premature failures of the shocks here and elsewhere, some wearing out after less than a year. I too haven't been kind to mine and they still feel good. I was expecting them to fail since I broke them in 5 years ago, but nope.
I completely agree with the bad batch or improved theory. Supergordo's car has probably less mileage on the suspension then mine, and probably nicer miles and his rocks and bows like a sail boat, mine on the other hand is firm.

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I completely agree with the bad batch or improved theory. Supergordo's car has probably less mileage on the suspension then mine, and probably nicer miles and his rocks and bows like a sail boat, mine on the other hand is firm.
IIRC Shadow and The Great Obucina had issues with Tokico as well, I put mine under death watch before I even installed them because of their experiences

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I have blues on stock SC springs lower mileage clean rust free from 95 LOL. Rides good but as expected not as harsh as the konis. They are worth it and as many people have noticed your choices are limited.

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I have blues on stock SC springs lower mileage clean rust free from 95 LOL. Rides good but as expected not as harsh as the konis. They are worth it and as many people have noticed your choices are limited.

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That's pretty much what I'm running. Tokico blues and S/C springs.

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Bought Tokico shocks & springs from shox.com. Still available through them but the price has gone up nearly $100. (Ouch!)

I panicked after I installed them and read about people having premature failures but 4 years and 45K miles later (of spirited driving) they are still good.
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I completely agree with the bad batch or improved theory. Supergordo's car has probably less mileage on the suspension then mine, and probably nicer miles and his rocks and bows like a sail boat, mine on the other hand is firm.
Damn, I've ridden in his car and I thought the ride was firmer than mine. Time to ditch these KYBs... Does anyone here have any experience with Tokico blues and stock uncut Eibachs? I really miss the ride of my last bird that had Billstein's with the same springs.

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Matt I have the Blues & Eibachs, The ride is great IMO, not to soft or harsh

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That's the ride I'm looking for. I'll have to keep an eye out for a deal on some blues now.

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i plan on runnin blues myself,, i still have the stock struts and shocks on.. but am runnin suspension techniques springs..

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My konis are badly worn from the cut springs and need a rebuild, they will be up for grabs (cheap) once the tokico setup is in place
Earl, I'll buy these when you get ready to sell them!



I just put the last set of sport shocks in the country on my Tbird... Unless one of you guys is sitting on another set, lol.

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Damn, I've ridden in his car and I thought the ride was firmer than mine. Time to ditch these KYBs... Does anyone here have any experience with Tokico blues and stock uncut Eibachs? I really miss the ride of my last bird that had Billstein's with the same springs.
Wanna go for a ride in the DOHC bird? Decide if they are firm enough for you?

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One of my rear tokico's is leaking, until now I have been happy with them. I have about 40-50k miles on them.
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I buy shocks from shox.com, they've always given me a good deal.

I have the Tokico HP blues on the front, Koni sports on the back and Eibach 1.5" drop springs. The Koni's are like 7 years old are are still firm, I have them set at 50%. The HP blues are a little softer than I like but it could be my springs too. I want to put some stiffer springs on it some day.

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Koni's should last forever on the rears; the fronts take a beating, lol.

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I have stock SC Tokicos on mine, the ride is pretty harsh but I leave them on firm ride all the time.

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Koni's should last forever on the rears; the fronts take a beating, lol.
Very true, the Koni's seem as firm as the day I put them on and should be fine as long as one doesn't start leaking. When I go over the speeds bump here in the parking lot slowly you can tell the front is a little mushy but the rear end snaps back stiff. I also have front and rear shock tower braces, LECB, FSSB, RTLB and SC back seat L braces. Right now in the canyons I have a little bit of over-steer but since I have the Koni's I can even it out a little. I really like the way it sticks to the road.

Conner, on my 90 SC I always leave the setting on firm. It just feels better, auto is just too soft. I'm not going to go all out on the SC's suspension though, maybe just the LECB and FSSB and sub-frame connectors if anyone else is going to make them. The SC is mainly going to be to annoy kids with Mustangs and scare old ladies

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Conner, on my 90 SC I always leave the setting on firm. It just feels better, auto is just too soft. I'm not going to go all out on the SC's suspension though, maybe just the LECB and FSSB and sub-frame connectors if anyone else is going to make them. The SC is mainly going to be to annoy kids with Mustangs and scare old ladies
Awesome.

I wish mine was in shape to do all of those things, currently I have to source a fender and sort why it wont track straight.

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