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What springs for my shocks?

I ordered the Cobra Bilstein Sport rear shocks and Tokico Blue fronts for my '92 LX 5.0. I have stock springs. What springs will work best with the shocks I'm getting?

Sport?
SC stock?
Vogtland?

I think the hard thing to match is the front because I have a heavy V8 and the Tokico shocks are not overly stiff based on reading here in the forums. Since I don't think I will find new factory SC or Sport springs I am thinking the Vogtland are the way to go and the 1" lowering looked to rate softer if I can get them.

Street and highway car here. I was thinking about a stiffer front sway bar but a lot of threads show fitment problems for the ADCO bars.

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I have a brand new set of Vogtland springs if you're interested...still in the box.

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Sport and sc springs are the same thing. Why not Tokico springs?

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I actually find the front Tokico springs are a little too stiff for the front Blue shocks, I think the Vogtlands would actually be a better match for them since they're progressive.

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Lobo I'm interested.

XR7-4.6 you worry me that vogtlands will be too stiff for the Tokico Blues.

I did not consider Tokico springs since I have not read much about them here.

Considering price the Vogtlands are the closest to used stock springs.

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Shocks were among the first things I did when I bought my car 15+ years ago. I was careless and cheap and did not replace any mounting parts and I got crunchy noise going over speed bumps. What do I need to get to eliminate noise?

1992 Tbird LX 5.0, 3.73 gears, 1995 Cobra intake, deleted air silencer, 2.5" mandrel bent dual exhaust, SCP shorty headers. Updated four-hole fuel injectors. SK shift kit in AOD. Vogtland 0.9" springs, Tokico and Bilstein shocks.
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I think the blues are about 10% too soft than ideal for the available lowering springs on the market, they're still worlds better than the Gabriel/Monroe/KYB alternatives though, and with progressive rates the the Vogtlands might be a better match. Linear springs such as the Tokicos bring out their worse qualities, which is odd since they can come as a kit

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The springs I bought in my Tokico kit are progressive; that's why I hate them.

You have to set them into a corner; sport springs don't do that.

CrystalPistol found the optimal ratio to cut the sport springs for best drop; I went that route. (On another car, sport springs and konis on Lazarus.)

I can't remember what it was, but the rear was less than a turn...

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So by the charts, it looks like the 0.9" Vogtlands are softer than the 1.75" and may match the Tokico blues better?
Also I have and air wrench and no suspension skills. Is spring and shock/strut replacement very difficult? I think rear shocks are easy.

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So by the charts, it looks like the 0.9" Vogtlands are softer than the 1.75" and may match the Tokico blues better?
Also I have and air wrench and no suspension skills. Is spring and shock/strut replacement very difficult? I think rear shocks are easy.
It's fairly straightforward if your car isn't rusty. When swapping springs, I would highly recommend you take the shock assembly to a shop with a wall mount spring compressor (easiest) if you have a friend who will do it for you (<5min of work). If not, I would recommend you get these from Autozone for free and take your time to remove the spring retaining plate (you don't want to have the top aimed at your body when you undo it unless the compressors are holding the spring so it won't uncompress to it's free length). To be extra paranoid, i also wrap the shock assembly in some scrap carpet just in case a compressor gives out suddenly).
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