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Sport springs worth it

Found a couple of 97 birds with the jjjj codes. I was wondering with about 180k on the springs (avg) would they be worth fooling with on my Mark viii. The car doesn't handle well as I would like. I want a good ride but I would also like it to corner better. The conversion kit springs feel to soft.

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With that many miles on them, they might not be worth your time. http://www.tccoa.com/articles/mn12-t...gs/springs.htm

What kind of kit do you have in the car now? Does it include an upgraded sway bar?

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Found a couple of 97 birds with the jjjj codes. I was wondering with about 180k on the springs (avg) would they be worth fooling with on my Mark viii. The car doesn't handle well as I would like. I want a good ride but I would also like it to corner better. The conversion kit springs feel to soft.
Sure..

The thing is..Those weak springs you got on there now, are paired with equally weak shocks..

So..You can't just replace one, and expect to see a big difference..

What you could do is pick up the Sport springs, and upgrade shocks at the same time..

You could use the Tokico Blues paired with the Sport springs..

From what I hear..The Tokico Blues seem to be the most similar to the old Sport Shocks..So they match up well together..






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With that many miles on them, they might not be worth your time. http://www.tccoa.com/articles/mn12-t...gs/springs.htm

What kind of kit do you have in the car now? Does it include an upgraded sway bar?
The conversion was done before I bought the car. Had sensatrac shocks and from the look of the design of the kit it was an american suspension. I put new Motorcraft standard shocks and Moog endlinks. The sway bar is stock.

Thanks for the link on the springs, don't know why I have not seen it before.

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yea a weak shock with stiffer springs = bouncy bouncy. We've all seen ricers like that haven't we?
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Sure..

The thing is..Those weak springs you got on there now, are paired with equally weak shocks..

So..You can't just replace one, and expect to see a big difference..

What you could do is pick up the Sport springs, and upgrade shocks at the same time..

You could use the Tokico Blues paired with the Sport springs..

From what I hear..The Tokico Blues seem to be the most similar to the old Sport Shocks..So they match up well together..

After researching the availability of springs these days I think I might try this. I can find the blues might try to find a set of lower mileage springs but I doubt that will happen. After all If I ain't happy I can always add them later.

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The Tokico springs would be the first thing to change so you don't end up bouncing down the highway with stiffer springs. Stiffer shocks first will allow you to try stiffer springs. I put on Bilstein rears and Tokico front shocks this year and they match pretty good with Voigtland 1" lowering springs installed at the same time. The 2" lowering springs are heavier and may not match as well. The shocks should handle used sport springs fine.

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Well I picked up some sport springs at the pic n pull for $60 and finally got them in. While I was in there I replaced the toe links and checked all the other bushings and they are good. Surprisingly the sport springs (at 180k) looked better than the after market garbage that came on this thing.



The rear after market (left) has already began rusting and peeling. The sport spring was just dirty.Though they both measured the same, the front of the car is about 1/4" lower, while the rear is up 1 1/4".
Can't drive it yet, all the good alignment shops are booked till next week. I think I'm going with the vogtland springs (1" drop) and tokico blues when the time (and money) are right.

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The rear after market (left) has already began rusting and peeling. The sport spring was just dirty.
That's because the Sport Springs have some sort of epoxy coating on them..Very durable stuff..

Typically an aftermarket stock replacement coil spring is just painted..






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Well I got it back today

Got the car back from the alignment shop today and I have to say it was worth it. The car has a lot better handling and don't bounce all over the road. The rear settled down and the car has a nice stance. So yes, if you have cheap aftermarket springs on your Mark, you could consider sport springs an "upgrade". Thanks everybody for your help.

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That's because the Sport Springs have some sort of epoxy coating on them..Very durable stuff..

Typically an aftermarket stock replacement coil spring is just painted..






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This is true. The 18 Year old springs in my DD look fantastic. Brand new. Except for the broken coils

I'm wondering what to paint my replacement springs with.
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This is true. The 18 Year old springs in my DD look fantastic. Brand new. Except for the broken coils

I'm wondering what to paint my replacement springs with.
I would get the used replacement Sport Springs sandblasted, and then Powder Coat them..


What is the Spring Code on the car with the broken coils springs?

On the door tag does it say JJEE?






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