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Problem w/ drop

I have just installed tokico lower springs on my cougar, problem is the car only dropped 1/4" in the front and 3/4" in the back. What do you think would cause this problem? I have a fiberglass hood and aluminum heads, would that make a big difference?

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 03-29-2004, 01:46 AM
 
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Settle?
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Yeh, but do you think it will a full inch?

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I know how you feel. I lowered mine 2 years ago, and loved how it looked. Since I did my engine swap with aluminum heads, lighter carb setup, no A/C system or air pump, lite weight brackets and pullies, no computer or wiring, very lite weight exhaust system, and a few other goodies, my car now sits higher in the front than it did before I lowered it Not sure what I am going to do yet. One of my buddies is a Dirt Tracker, and has the 4 wheel digital scales, so I will be weighing it soon. Once I have the weights, I will decide.

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you have to remember that over time your suspension will sag, and the 1.5" drop is the drop from the factory ride height, when new
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you have to remember that over time your suspension will sag, and the 1.5" drop is the drop from the factory ride height, when new
Good point, but compared to my 90', my 92' always seemed to sit higher to start with, so I doubt it dropped much from factory.

Would a spring kit have less of a drop when used on the lighter 3.8? Because if so, you would think a kit used for both a V8 and V6 application would drop significantly lower when used on a vehical with the V8.

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What kind of shocks are you running?
I remember years ago having that problem on sports cars that I used gas-charged Bilstein Sports on. I'd expect a 2" drop with my new springs, and instead I'd get 3/4"-1". It was a fairly common problem at the time. The higher pressure of the gas shocks actually "suspended" the car higher than it would have set with hydraulic shocks/struts. Of course these were much lighter cars, and I don't know if the same thing would apply to the heavy Birds and Cougars.
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i'm using the tokico shocks

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When i dropped my car with H&R's the front was 1/2" higher then the rear..

Also did you replace the rear spring insulators?? that can raise the back end like 1/4-1/2" with new ones...

See if i have a side shot (well i do.. just need to upload it )
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Ahh can't go back and add.. (make mental note,, do not click `submit reply till completely done with it' )

CLick of side pic
and i lowered it last winter (not this one that just passed) so it's settled and i'm running Tokico Illumina 2's too.. the *ONLY* thought i have on the whole thing is, that i rebuild the front suspension at the same time as i lowered it, so it may be just that.. 'cpet i don't want to `rebuild' the rear suspension.. Modify shure, but not rebuild

Also bad side pic i know..

okay i think i'm done
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I have a problem with my suspension as well. I have a 2.5" gap in front fender and 1.5" gap in back fender. That's with only a 2nd battery in back. I bought 1.5" lowering springs. If I put them on should that level the car. Or would the problem in the back be the shocks?

After I put my subs in the back the fender gap is only about 1" or less. What should I do. Will the springs hold up the back or would I need new shocks, if that was the problem in the first place?

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I have a problem with my suspension as well. I have a 2.5" gap in front fender and 1.5" gap in back fender. That's with only a 2nd battery in back. I bought 1.5" lowering springs. If I put them on should that level the car. Or would the problem in the back be the shocks?

After I put my subs in the back the fender gap is only about 1" or less. What should I do. Will the springs hold up the back or would I need new shocks, if that was the problem in the first place?

THanks,

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As far as I know shocks are only meant to dampen the motion of the suspension and do not affect ride height. If you want to raise the ride height of the rear of you car, absolutely do not install lowerings springs, but maybe try cargo springs or airbags.

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and i lowered it last winter (not this one that just passed) so it's settled and i'm running Tokico Illumina 2's too.. the *ONLY* thought i have on the whole thing is, that i rebuild the front suspension at the same time as i lowered it, so it may be just that.. 'cpet i don't want to `rebuild' the rear suspension.. Modify shure, but not rebuild

Also bad side pic i know..

okay i think i'm done
So it hasn't dropped from the time you installed them 'till now?

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Very little...

No a fair comparision thou.. but click
that's what it looked like a week after.. keeping in mind that that was witht eh old rear spring insulators and on less then `smooth and level' ground
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