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Front Koni's have been installed!!

Well,

Aaron and I installed my Koni inserts earlier this evening and the install was quite straight foward. We followed the instructions on MarkVIII.org. To compress the springs, We used the Strut Spring Compressors from Autozone and they worked fine and compressed the springs down very easily. Installing the Koni inserts requires venting the existing shock, which can be kinda dangerous. The fluid in the shock in under quite a bit of pressure and Aaron caught it in the face and made a bit of a mess in the shop. After the shock is vented, the top of the shock, just under the weld seam is to be cut. The bottom of the shock between the lower mount if it has a casting "knob" has to be cut of ground off, so that a flat surface is remaining to tap and drill a hole in the center that is a little over 1/2inch so that the lower mount bolt doesnt catch any of the shock body and crossthread. After that, its all self explanitory, the spring and mount plate is reinstalled and its all good. Aaron caught some video footage of me venting a shock, to show how much pressure the fluid is under. He might be able to get it posted. For those of you contemplating Konis, the front cartridge isnt as hard as it might seem. Since Aarons labor fee was Wendys and a set of rotors, I think I made out quite nicely

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Yeah, only reason I caught that fluid in the face is cause I had no idea there was liquid in there under that much pressure....you should have been the pioneer on drilling that hole Also, the video I took of you drilling the hole in the second shock is 22MB dunno where I'm gonna host that!

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22mb? Damn it was funny. Can you put it on a cd for me? I gotta keep it on file.

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Sure, I'll give it to you next time you come over to do your UCA's

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so are they worth it?
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Umm....there is an easier way to vent the shocks...just turn them upside down and compress them....just make sure you do it in a pan because all of the fluid will leak out.

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Let me know how you like the Koni's. I'm probably buying a set in about a week. Best option from what I can tell for shocks.

Also, if you want, I can host that video file for you. I have plenty of webspace and bandwith. Just let me know.

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Dear Great Ob:

I'll second-or-third the question! Whattaya think of 'em?? We're dying to know!
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Ive run the shocks around town today at the minimum setting, mid, and agressive driving settings. They are great, minimal front end pickup on acceleration and minimum brake dive. They ride very nicely, kinda rough over bad pavement with the max setting but, they are performance shocks and you do get what you pay for. They work very well with my Eibachs.

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No need to set the Konis anywhere near max. stiffness on the street. Halfway is plenty for the most aggressive street driving. Only time mine see the max. setting or close to it, is when I'm doing open-track events with the car.

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since it's a long weekend.. i may be swaping in a set of konis and Eibachs just to see what they like compared to the H&R's and Tokico Illumia 2's (SC adjustable )

on the plus side.. alignment shouldn't be needed, since my car is already droped
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on the plus side.. alignment shouldn't be needed, since my car is already droped
Not exactly, unless you mark everything as your take it apart, you'll probably need an alignment.

Would be cool if you didn't, but i'd guess you would.

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ok, this may sound like a stupid question, but how do you adjust the koni's? the instructions were limited, and i haven't bothered searching yet. just figured i'd ask here first

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well one doesn't have to touch anythign that does the adjusting of the alignment to do the swap.. So..

But i may still get one.. i want something more then 0 degrees camber
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No need to set the Konis anywhere near max. stiffness on the street. Halfway is plenty for the most aggressive street driving. Only time mine see the max. setting or close to it, is when I'm doing open-track events with the car.

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I put it on max to see what the ride was like, well I put it at 1 full turn. I set it back to 1/2 turn before leaving work about 30min. ago.

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ok, this may sound like a stupid question, but how do you adjust the koni's? the instructions were limited, and i haven't bothered searching yet. just figured i'd ask here first
the top of the shock has a flat head screwdriver looking end, you put the big white knob over the fitting and turn counterclockwise to increase damping, clockwise to decrease damping. Its a no brainer.

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Where is the best place to acquire said shocks?

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I got mine from Tirerack.com be forewarned, they are expensive. The rears are 117$ Each and the Front inserts are 136$ each. You might be able to find them other places on the net for a little cheaper, but for the amount of money I had to cough up, I would rather go with a company like Tirerack because I can trust them.

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I got mine from Tirerack.com be forewarned, they are expensive. The rears are 117$ Each and the Front inserts are 136$ each. You might be able to find them other places on the net for a little cheaper, but for the amount of money I had to cough up, I would rather go with a company like Tirerack because I can trust them.

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Tirerack is a TAD bit more than shox.com, but shox.com doesn't have the rears in stock right now.

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the top of the shock has a flat head screwdriver looking end, you put the big white knob over the fitting and turn counterclockwise to increase damping, clockwise to decrease damping. Its a no brainer.

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well i knew that much, but is there a stop to it? like all the way to the left is loose and all the way to the right is tight, or does it just keep turning?

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well i knew that much, but is there a stop to it? like all the way to the left is loose and all the way to the right is tight, or does it just keep turning?
there is a minimum setting, when turning, there should be little or no resistance. 1 full revolution counterclockwise is the "Aggressive Driving" setting, so I havent gone past that. To go to minimum, is does stop.

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They have a min and max stop points, its about 2 and a tad turns.

I just put them on my stock spring 94 SC this weekend and love them vs the OEM Tokicos. Have them set on 1/2 turn from min for now, but am going to adjust every week to try most of the settings.

Its weird that Shox.com doesn't have the rears, when I ordered mine, they had them but not the fronts.
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I believe that Koni has the rears on back order right now ... so Shox.com is probably just sold out, waiting for more to arrive. They likely sell more of them than Tire Rack does.


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Koni and Eibachs are in my car...
FUll firm is interesting, if you liek to feel every irregularity of the road :S SOft well not bad... but the fronts do need to be a MINIUM 1/2 turn to firm to help stop `float'

So far my fav position is in the `middle' which is alittle firmer/nicer then the Tokico Illuminas (in firm) and H&Rs

Also my car now somewhat sits LEVEL!!!!!! WOOHOOO!!!!

Now when i try the Konis and H&Rs should i trim the front springs.. HMMMMMmm
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According to Bill at Supercoupeperformance.com the Koni's
were on backorder 'til the 4th of April so you
should be able to order 'em right away now...

I got 'em for $510 bucks...


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Revived thread...

Obucina, you've had your Konis for 5 years now, do you still love them?

I bought a set last week, and am about to go start taking my spare (dead) set of shocks apart; do you guys still have the video posted anywhere of opening up the shocks?

I think this is a fairly obvious process, but it always helps to see someone else do it first...

BTW, Anyone make aftermarket electronic adjusters for the Konis? (lol)

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I got mine from Tirerack.com be forewarned, they are expensive. The rears are 117$ Each and the Front inserts are 136$ each. You might be able to find them other places on the net for a little cheaper, but for the amount of money I had to cough up, I would rather go with a company like Tirerack because I can trust them.

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they are sale from Koni for that price until June 30th. than they go back up to $176 each. so you got them extremely cheap.

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we have to see that vid.. where is it ? lol

The Konis are so worth it. I had them on my Camaro. Im doing the Koni /Vogtland springs

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Obucina, you've had your Konis for 5 years now, do you still love them?

I bought a set last week, and am about to go start taking my spare (dead) set of shocks apart; do you guys still have the video posted anywhere of opening up the shocks?

I think this is a fairly obvious process, but it always helps to see someone else do it first...

BTW, Anyone make aftermarket electronic adjusters for the Konis? (lol)
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