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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-27-2004, 08:45 AM Thread Starter
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Cutting SC Springs

I am just putting some feelers out for anyone that has done this.

I have a set and I want to put them on my LX. I have heard mixed reviews on how much they change the ride height of the car so I need to figure out how much to cut off.

I know that there are a lot of people against this idea so don't pipe in with that opinion. I just want to discuss this with those who have actually done this.
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-27-2004, 09:07 AM
 
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I just finished the front on my 94 SC. V8 vs SC springs have different spring rates and spring heights. I can only comment on the shorter stiffer SC springs. I cut 1 full coil out from the bottom on the front springs. The spring went back together in the strut assembly just fine. I noticed the last two bottom coils were rusting where they came in constant contact with each other. The last coil was wound closer to the 2nd coil so that explained why it showed signs of rusting. I have to post a few pictures of the front, Later tonight. The actual drop is not know until I get the engine back in to see where the fender sits. My hope is around a 1" max drop. I have 18x9 FR500 wheels with 245/45/18 so I cannot afford to lower it too much. After the front height is completed I will know how much to cut the rear springs to match the height. I suggest starting with one coil on the front before deciding to cut the rear. The cars front/rear weight plays a big role in how the car sits. For the rear I would suggest getting a set of the poly spring isolators to maintain the same body height. Good Luck

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Ok, I was guessing at 1 coil. I just wanted to get some other opinions from others that have done it.
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I cut my springs originally. I thought things were ok. I had it that way for about 3 years I think. Its hard to judge how much to cut off. I think i cut 1 1/2 coils on the back. The front I cut about 4 times untilt it was on the shock stopper that was cut in half.

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Ok. I was just thinking that I haven't posted what wheels/tires I have. Even though I am just inside the stock wheel diameter, I am way over the stock width. I am running P275/35ZR18's on the back and P245/45ZR18's on the front. I do need to make sure I don't lower it so much that I rub.
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I see that some of y'all cut one or one and half coils off the front, but what abou the back???

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They're not SC springs, but after I installed my ST lowering springs I decided that they didnt' lower enough in the front so I cut an additional coil out of them. Cutting one coil out gave me about an extra inch of drop in the front so that the wheelwell sits just about level with the top of my tire. '97 Sport rims and 225 60 16's.


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So, anyone cut more than one or one and a half coils off the SC springs? I also have a V8 and want to buy some SC springs and maybe cut 2 coils out if possible. I'd like to get my car lowered about 2.5" in the front and 2.0" back to level it out.

Also, how are you guys cutting them? I have an air compressor with an air cutting wheel tool - Would this work? I heard that if you get the springs too hot, they'll loose there firmness (not sure what the technical name of that is)..
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Cut it more? Well when I cut them I got a pretty much even 3" drop

As for cutting them, I used a hacksaw for the least amount of heat possible.


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Wow, okay. I guess I wouldn't need to cut 'em more than that. I couldn't find a pic of your drop on your site, so I just figured I'd ask what more than one coil would do... Thanks, I got an idea at least when I find some SC springs. How long did it take you to cut 'em with a hacksaw? And how many blades did you go through? That's some tough steel isn't it?? By the way - You're car looks awesome!

Could anybody compare the difference in ride quality from cut SC springs to lowering springs? I also noticed someone even cut some lowering springs... How's the ride quality?
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Well I always have the car in firm ride and honestly I don't feel a difference at all between the stock sc springs and the cut sc springs. In firm ride everything acts the exact same, just lower to the ground, As for lowering springs to cut springs, I think it feels the exact same also in firm ride. Not sure how it will be in the soft position though

How long did it take? A decent amount of time, thats for sure. I went thru I think 6 blades...

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Ahhh... I was curious about the ride, because I don't have an SC so I don't have the ride adjustability settings... Maybe someone with an LX with SC springs will chime in soon...
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Would a reciprocating saw be a good cutting device if the spring could be held down?
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As long as it generates hardly any heat thru the spring then sure

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I cut coils out for a 4" drop on my Cougar a couple years ago, and it really didn't ride as bad as you would think it would. Wish I had pictures, but a few members here saw it like that, and couldn't believe it. They were SC springs as well. And I cut them with a die grinder and cutoff wheel.
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as far as what to use to cut them, probably the fastest way would be to use a bandsaw with a metal-cutting band on it, if you have access to one....just be sure to not cut it all in one cut, kinda make it "nibble" at it to keep the temps down, and have a bucket of water nearby to cool it between nibbles. and be sure to angle the table of the saw a little so that it's not trying to cut through 2 sections of the spring at once

or if you have a Dremel tool with a cut-off wheel, that would work too, as long as you remember to keep it cool
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Could anybody compare the difference in ride quality from cut SC springs to lowering springs? I also noticed someone even cut some lowering springs... How's the ride quality? [/B]

That was me that cut my lowering springs. I had them in my car un-cut for about 2 weeks, and after I cut a coil out of the front I honestly could not even tell a difference in ride quality. I have stock sport shocks in the front btw. My car has almost the exact same stance as Tazer999's, it's exactly the same in the front but mine sits maybe 1/4" to 1/2" higher in the rear.

I tried cutting through my ST's with a hacksaw, and it just wasn't working...I also tried a sawzall and all it did was eat blades. I finally had a neighbor take them to work and use a cutting wheel which took care of the duty in seconds.



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Would a reciprocating saw be a good cutting device if the spring could be held down?
tried that on another car. took forever and went through many blades. most annoying method but it can be done. you can use a vise to hold the spring.
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Well, I do have a cut-off wheel for my air compressor so I will have to use that.
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