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What is this part? I need a new one!

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While washing my car the other day, I noticed the weirdest thing (maybe not so weird). As you can see in this picture, this persons "thing-a-ma-bobs boot" is cracked. Well, my boot is almost complete ripped off. What is this thing, and where can I purchase a new one!?



Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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That would be the very well known "Upper Ball Joint Boot" thet everyone talks about.

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Moog part numbers....

K8598 Upper; RH
K8596 Upper; LH

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10763 Upper; LH
10764 Upper; RH
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My passenger side looks like that...sigh.
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My passenger side looks like that...sigh.
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I just ordered my new upper control arms with bushing and ball joints preinstalled from www.rockauto.com. Around $50 each. Check em out.
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so are these little boogers hard to install? I was thinking about installing them when I do my springs. Might as well, right?!

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A 18mm gear wrench is your friend on that job.
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A 18mm gear wrench is your friend on that job.

yes yes yes!
he is absolutely right scott
i dont think i could have done it w/o the gear wrench
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No offense guys, but I think he just wants to replace the boot.

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Yes, I believe the boot is the only thing that is bad. How would I know if something else were bad?

I got the hook up on some Eibach springs (from Eibach directly), so I guess I can afford these "arms" anyway. I guess there are a few perks working for Hella. I get discounts on parts like whoa!

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If the boot is bad, the ball joint is shot... you can't just replace the boot anyway (to my knowledge). The uppers only come as a unit, you cannot replace just the ball joint it is NOT available anywhere... The newest of our cars out there is 7 years.. the ball joints, and most of the front and rear suspension bushings, bearings, joints, etc. are all due or over due on any one that hasn't yet replaced them, unless you have unusually low mileage, and even then, I had to replace uppers in the '95 with under 40k.... Florida weather is hard on rubber and plastic parts.

A word to the wise... if the uppers are bad, check the lowers, too.. and it would be smart to look at your front and rear sway bar end links, strut arm bushings, knuckle bushings, shock mounts, etc, etc, etc.... Yup all of it.. it's pay me now, or pay me later. If your lower ball joints need replacement (and the probably do), my advise is to replace the whole arm and get the new bushings as well, although you can just get the MOOG ball joints, but have to have the pressed in (they have the zerc fittings though, the ones already in the new arms don't)...

The good news is that there are poly MOOG poly replacements for almost all those parts available at Rockauto.com at good price which are superior to OEM... or Richie at MN12performance.com has poly replacement sets of bushings..

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You can do it with a standard 18mm wrench, it just takes a long time.
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A 18mm gear wrench is your friend on that job.
OK, I'll bite, what is a "Gear Wrench"? Why do gears require any type of special wrench?

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OK, I'll bite, what is a "Gear Wrench"? Why do gears require any type of special wrench?

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It is commonly referred to as a "ratchet wrench". It is a regular sized wrench that has a ratcheting action to make removing bolts in tight places easier.
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OK, I'll bite, what is a "Gear Wrench"? Why do gears require any type of special wrench?
Gear Wrench is the name of a company that makes ratcheting wrenches.

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A 18mm gear wrench is your friend on that job.
Yep - I would never attempt doing this job without my 18mm Craftsmen gear wrench.
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Gear Wrench is the name of a company that makes ratcheting wrenches.

I've used both on this job and I can tell you that

Craftsman > Gear wrench

The craftsman version has a slight angle on the head making it much easier - the gear wrench is straight and get hung up on stuff.
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I've used both on this job and I can tell you that

Craftsman > Gear wrench

The craftsman version has a slight angle on the head making it much easier - the gear wrench is straight and get hung up on stuff.
No doubt. I would only buy Craftsman if I could afford to. Yes, I have noticed that on Gear Wrench. It can get annoying to say the least.

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What about poping of the plate on the head of the bolt with a screwdriver? Then you could put a socket on it from under the fender.
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The plate is a good thing on a flag bolt since it keeps the bolt from turning when you loosen the nut.
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The plate is a good thing on a flag bolt since it keeps the bolt from turning when you loosen the nut.
werd - I leave the flags
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Oh! The front ends are so much fun to work on. I did everything on the front end of my bird. What a B**** it was. Those springs on the struts just about killed me. Getting them out of the car was fun too. The upper control arm was about the simplest thing to do, if not time consuming. I was lucky I had another car to go and have bushings pressed in.
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