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Lowering Regrets?

Just came back from the shop (I don't want to do springs myself) and while they will do it, they want to talk me out of lowering the car. (Eiback's & Koni's) Does anybody out there regret lowering there car?
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post #2 of 42 (permalink) Old 08-23-2005, 11:08 AM
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how much is it gonna cost you? Just labor wise? I'm gettin my bird lowered and just curious what labor will run me. i cannot do the springs and crap without help.

I don't think i'd regret lowering the car.
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They tell me 3-4 hundred in labor. That does include alignment btw. It'd better! I was figuring about 3 before I went in for the quote.

My shocks are shot, thats why im doing this now. Figured why not do the 'whole package'

*I know.. and am going back after to do swaybar and endlinks myself.
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bring the car here and ill do it for $50 an beer

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bring the car here and ill do it for $50 an beer
move to illinois and i'll give you $100 and beer

3-4hun labor. sheesh...
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Just might take you up on that KrAzyT...
But does anyone actualy reget lowering their car - or more importantly - regret lowering with the Eiback/Koni package? (No answers must be good!)
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I only regret it when driving on the roads down here, but keep in mind we are below sea level and sinking! Other than that, I have no complaints. It makes the stance of the car look much better, removes some fender gap over the tires and improve the driving experience.
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move to illinois and i'll give you $100 and beer

3-4hun labor. sheesh...
or at least come out for a visit, Illinois is beautiful this time of year

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I don't regret it....but I am in need of finding a way to get my camber back in spec in the front.


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My car was already lowered with Eibachs (not Koni shocks though) when I bought it and at first, it took some getting used to. I banged the frame on a lot of speed bumps and driveways until it became second nature to take speed bumps much slower than I used to. Driveways are a different story. I still scrape the frame and front bumper cover on some steep driveways. Just take it real easy until it becomes second nature.

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I banged the frame on a lot of speed bumps and driveways until it became second nature to take speed bumps much slower than I used to. Driveways are a different story. I still scrape the frame and front bumper cover on some steep driveways. Just take it real easy until it becomes second nature.
Did you have any problem with alignment? I don't ever scrape...

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I would not pay $300-$400, to put lowering springs on my car! I did it my self. The Fronts were easy but the rear is kinda a pain in the A**! A shop here in Cali told me they would charge me Like $130.00 To pull my springs off cut them and reinstall them for me! But thats when I was wanting it more lower! Now I am gonna bag it!
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i dont have any regrets of lowering my car...nobody makes springs that will set you low enough to tear up your underbody if you ask me

ill do your springs for $75 and no beer!
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does that include your travel expenses to the Midwest? If so, deal!

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I only regret it when I go to the drive in..i can't get up on the little hills as much any more. I lowered mine with eibachs, but with stock shocks so I think that may be the reason. I plan on doing the sport fronts cobra conv rear combo soon.
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ill do your springs for $75 and no beer!
Anybody in CT want the job?
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Absolutely zero regrets. I even cut 1 coil out of the fronts to lower it a little more. Like 95greenbird said, you get used to going slow over bumps and stuff pretty quickly; doesn't bother me at all anymore.

Oh, and 3-400 is crazy. Rent a spring compressor and do it yourself; it's EASY.
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Well, I got used to driving with a low front end years ago. I had a 76 mustang cobra, it had a front spoiler. Thank goodness it was rubber.
When I bought my bird, it had the air dam up front. It set too close to ground and would scrap the cement blocks in a parking spot. So I took it off. When you get used to it, you won't mind it. Mine was lowered 2 in back and 2 1/2 in front.
For example, you are crossing traffic to go into a restaurant. You goose it to cross traffic, then hit the brakes so you can ease into the steep parking lot at an angle. You take all your steep places at an angle and slow.
But after a while, you get used to it. You are going to rub the bottom of the bumper, but it can take it.
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OH, by the way. Why are yall telling him to rent a spring commpressor to do his front shocks? Those things are dangerous and others in this Suspension Forums will agree, and have stated numerous times to take front shocks to a shop and let them compress them with a wall mount unit.

Now, before yall jump at me. You may have years of mechanical experience and are will to take the risk. But remember, people who are inexperienced with tools read these threads
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One reason I went with Sport springs (Thanks, DAN NEWMAN!!) instead of lowering springs was because I don't want *any* bottoming out at just about any reasonable speed or angle.

I come from a dusty place.
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yea i regret it,






i wish i did it sooner.

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You guys are convincing me...
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I absolutely have no regrets about lowering my car.............I used Eibachs...........the only thing thats a little annoying is that a floor jack will not go under the car unless you use your stock jack to raise the car enough to put the floor jack under it..............a minor price to pay for a cool stance and improved handling


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How much more harsh is the ride than stock?

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My seat-of-the-pants meter tells me the ride is no different from stock LX springs to the Eibach's. I have Tokico Blue shocks, and I love it. Overall, it rides similar to my SC when it was on firm ride.

My only regret on lowering is that I didn't do it sooner, but I have no ground effects body parts; if I had them, I'd think twice before lowering. Just use a little common sense and situational awareness when driving. These things aren't meant to be off-road beasts. The things that I worry about scraping are exhaust pipes (especially aftermarket), the dimple in the 96-up 4R70W tranny pan (or aftermarket deep pans), and the fuel filter area. Add-on chassis bracing too, if you have any. High curbs, speed bumps and sewer man-hole covers (when they resurface the streets) will be the big things I watch out for, along with dead tires left in the middle of the interstate.

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regret running konis and eibachs? in a word....fukno.

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regret running konis and eibachs? in a word....fukno.

get em.

You just can't go wrong with that combo...
Got it myself and just love hove it sits and handles....

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i think i've decided on Konis and Intrax combination. the intrax springs seem to get good reviews by people who have them.


Anyone in Illinois want to do my suspension work? ( shocks/springs for now ) ?

I'm inexperienced and have minimal tools to get the job done.
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Did you have any problem with alignment? I don't ever scrape...

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When I bought the car, the alignment was way out. The insides of the tires where worn (OK, almost bald) much more than the rest of the tires. Those tires lasted a year before I bought my current set of tires and had the alignment adjusted. Since then, I have not noticed any irregular wear of the tires and the tech that did the alignment had no problems aligning it either.

I still scrape on occasion when I mis-judge a speed bump or don't use enough angle on a driveway. One other thing I forgot to mention is watch out for curbs when you parrallel park. When ever I park the car at a friend's house and my wife is a passenger, I have to remind her to be carefull when opening the door because depending on the curb, the bottom of the door will scrape or hit the curb.

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I had my thunderbird lowered at one time. I did not like it because the ride quality was poor. I switched to factory sport/sc springs and monroe reflex shocks and it rode much better without being floaty.
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