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Torque app and PIDs for us

Anyone running The Torque app? And have amassed any extended PIDs? I have been running it for a few months now and am slowly accumulating some extended PIDs for our cars. I have several working but a few need some others to test to see if the equations are correct and/or its not just my car's readings (1996 Tbird 4.6).

PIDs added:
DPFE voltage - works fine.
Transmission Fluid Temp - works fine
Baro Hz - needs confirmation (think my MAF is going out)
IAC duty cycle % - equation needs work, ie need testers
MAF AD counts - needs confirmation (will allow MAF voltage too)

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Just Download an app called Forscan. Has every pid you would ever want. Totally free for the PC

Download FORScan

Forscan lite is free for android, you get one pid at a time.
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Anyone running The Torque app? And have amassed any extended PIDs? I have been running it for a few months now and am slowly accumulating some extended PIDs for our cars. I have several working but a few need some others to test to see if the equations are correct and/or its not just my car's readings (1996 Tbird 4.6).

PIDs added:
DPFE voltage - works fine.
Transmission Fluid Temp - works fine
Baro Hz - needs confirmation (think my MAF is going out)
IAC duty cycle % - equation needs work, ie need testers
MAF AD counts - needs confirmation (will allow MAF voltage too)
I have TorquePro and love it on my Android. If you have a PID for Oil Pressure, I'd love to add that to mine. Can you share the PID for Transmission Fluid temp please?

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I've tried FORScan a bit but don't have it setup on the Android. Yet

Transmission Fluid Temp
PID: 221674
Min:0 Max: 200
Unit: F
((A*256)+B)/8
Header: Auto (if it doesn't work or seems off, try header: TCM)

DPFE Voltage
PID: 22114e
Min: 0 Max: 6
Units: Volts
(A*1.8)/100
Header: Auto

MAF A/D Counts
PID: 221633
Min:0 Max:1024
((A*256)+B)*(1/(64^1))
Header: Auto

Baro (not sure on this one's readings)
PID: 221127
Min:0 Max:300
Unit: Hz
Equation: A
Header: C410F1

I don't take credit for these. It has been a community effort. The first 3 work good. Not sure on the "baro" one yet.

Will you try out the "Baro" one? Not sure it is correct and/or my MAF is truly going out. Thanks! I haven't gotten to oil temp yet but will post when I do.
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I think the service DVD had all the pids.
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I think the service DVD had all the pids.
tell me more about this service dvd
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So I have an aftermarket oil pressure gauge that has a simple go/no go switch for the warning light, as well as the calibrated gauge for actual oil pressure. I'm guessing since it doesn't tie in to the ECU, there's no way to read that either.

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I'd be interested in knowing more about the service dvd as well. The service manual I have doesn't show PIDs.

Woodman: I have done a brief search of oil pressure monitoring with Torque on the Mustang forums and it doesn't seem likely but I will look more in the future. As far as your existing oil pressure gauges, you are right and saying that it would need to be integrated into the ECU for Torque to be able to read it (easily). Did you try the "Baro" one yet? I'm reading 231Hz which is way off (from my understanding)!

Still working on the equation for the IAC duty cycle.

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I'd be interested in knowing more about the service dvd as well. The service manual I have doesn't show PIDs.

Woodman: I have done a brief search of oil pressure monitoring with Torque on the Mustang forums and it doesn't seem likely but I will look more in the future. As far as your existing oil pressure gauges, you are right and saying that it would need to be integrated into the ECU for Torque to be able to read it (easily). Did you try the "Baro" one yet? I'm reading 231Hz which is way off (from my understanding)!

Still working on the equation for the IAC duty cycle.
I haven't tried the baro yet, and I'm not 100% certain how I'd read it. Add to it my engine isn't between the fenders yet (this weekend I hope!). I'll dig into it.

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Baro is just another means of checking the MAF (a portion of it). In place of a MAP, the ECU measures a capacitor in the MAF to determine barometric pressure. It reads it in Hz (then there is a conversion chart to compare if it is reading your altitude properly). Just something I was interested in because I've seen that number used a lot in testing a MAF when the counts/volts are reading fine.

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