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Lol, so another trade in the works..
I been talking to the guy and the heads are complete and including mach1 cams..
They are stage 2 fully ported and complete heads with mach1 cams and have an print cut into the head? Is that for clearance with boost or to lower compression ?
He doesn't have the spec sheet but what I'm wondering is with them being ported as they are for boost supposedly, would I loose compression and in return power running them n/a ???
I love the idea of them exp with the mach1 cams and is a perfect excuse for a topend rebuild.i know I said I'm done trying to go faster but if I can trade what I got for this set up and have it actually be beneficial for me I wanna..plus then obv the motor gets to get new timing chains ect...
Could you guys offer any input ?
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Lol, so another trade in the works..
I been talking to the guy and the heads are complete and including mach1 cams..
They are stage 2 fully ported and complete heads with mach1 cams and have an print cut into the head? Is that for clearance with boost or to lower compression ?
He doesn't have the spec sheet but what I'm wondering is with them being ported as they are for boost supposedly, would I loose compression and in return power running them n/a ???
I love the idea of them exp with the mach1 cams and is a perfect excuse for a topend rebuild.i know I said I'm done trying to go faster but if I can trade what I got for this set up and have it actually be beneficial for me I wanna..plus then obv the motor gets to get new timing chains ect...
Could you guys offer any input ?
Mach 1 cams (C head cams) in a B head? Is that a thing?

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Lol, so another trade in the works..
I been talking to the guy and the heads are complete and including mach1 cams..
They are stage 2 fully ported and complete heads with mach1 cams and have an print cut into the head? Is that for clearance with boost or to lower compression ?
He doesn't have the spec sheet but what I'm wondering is with them being ported as they are for boost supposedly, would I loose compression and in return power running them n/a ???
I love the idea of them exp with the mach1 cams and is a perfect excuse for a topend rebuild.i know I said I'm done trying to go faster but if I can trade what I got for this set up and have it actually be beneficial for me I wanna..plus then obv the motor gets to get new timing chains ect...
Could you guys offer any input ?
Mach 1 cams (C head cams) in a B head? Is that a thing?
Idk either..i will start researching though.if not atleast I can use the cams I have and just get rid of the mach1 cams..
Although if doing all this I would just start part gathering and plan on having the engine done over next winter . I seen after market intake cams for 250-400$ range which isn't bad, if I'm doing all this works and the heads are ported as much as they are I might just need them..
So this is what I'm go ding is this true??
The c heads cams will actually cause me to loose hp because even the stock 98 m8 cams have 184 degrees of duration and 96-98 have 204 degrees (which I have) and 03 04 mach1 are also 184 degrees. Does this sound correct.
Are the mach1 cams only good for the tumbleport or boosted aplications ?

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So, what do have that you are you trading for these?

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Lol, so another trade in the works..
So, what do have that you are you trading for these?

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And I read that people use the 96-98 cams in the later 4v for a little hp..
So I just have to research more..
And if I read it correctly, the mach1 intake cams are almost similar to m8 cams,that doesn't seem rite.?
Also once I get them I think I might get cobra manifold then and run a full catless exhaust..
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Mach 1 cams in B ports dont do anything to help. I asked that question on SVTperformance when I was learning more about 4 valves.

The only swap kinda like this that I heard works is taking some 96-98 B port Cobra intake cams and swapping them into C port Mach 1s, makes and extra 15whp with no torque loss iirc.

Given the cobras are rated 15hp more than your Mark, and only the intake cams and intake are different between the two, Id look around for an intake and the intake cams from a 96-98 cobra.

Plus B ports are already large enough, their problem is velocity. Making them bigger by porting them will only hurt. The valve bowls are what needs help, so unless he had those worked on, nothing in the deal would be worth it for you.

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Mach 1 cams in B ports dont do anything to help. I asked that question on SVTperformance when I was learning more about 4 valves.

The only swap kinda like this that I heard works is taking some 96-98 B port Cobra intake cams and swapping them into C port Mach 1s, makes and extra 15whp with no torque loss iirc.

Given the cobras are rated 15hp more than your Mark, and only the intake cams and intake are different between the two, Id look around for an intake and the intake cams from a 96-98 cobra.

Plus B ports are already large enough, their problem is velocity. Making them bigger by porting them will only hurt. The valve bowls are what needs help, so unless he had those worked on, nothing in the deal would be worth it for you.
Exact info I need..i want to know what to look for..
I mean imo it's worth it just to trade to have..its always been my dream to go boosted this would help it along..
And I do know someone with a boosted 4v and he's a good buddy and I know he would love these..
I been researching on these all day any chance I had to sit down...been non stop for days now and Easter tomorrow then a nice night of walking dead with the family and more reading on these ect..i plan in checking them out this weekend..
And xr7-4.6 , your the 4v know how guy here..and I have also come to find 96 98 cams are the ideal ones to have so that's pretty cool.
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I wouldn't do it. If only for the fact that if he's willing to trade ported heads and cams for a dinky SCT, I would highly suspect that there is something wrong with them.

When heads are ported, there is always a risk of hitting the coolant passage. I have seen it first hand more times than I ever wanted to.

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I wouldn't do it. If only for the fact that if he's willing to trade ported heads and cams for a dinky SCT, I would highly suspect that there is something wrong with them.

When heads are ported, there is always a risk of hitting the coolant passage. I have seen it first hand more times than I ever wanted to.

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THIS. Something doesn't make sense.
What is the value of modular heads? I imagine a good deal more. What is the cost of shipping a set of modular heads+cams? How much is the shipping cost as a percentage of the SCT's value?

While Al suspects you are going to get junk heads -- I'm guessing the most reasonable explanation (unless this is coming from a friend in a F2F transaction and he's doing you a solid favor) -- is that you will mail the SCT and never hear from the guy again.

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I wouldn't do it. If only for the fact that if he's willing to trade ported heads and cams for a dinky SCT, I would highly suspect that there is something wrong with them.

When heads are ported, there is always a risk of hitting the coolant passage. I have seen it first hand more times than I ever wanted to.

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THIS. Something doesn't make sense.
What is the value of modular heads? I imagine a good deal more. What is the cost of shipping a set of modular heads+cams? How much is the shipping cost as a percentage of the SCT's value?

While Al suspects you are going to get junk heads -- I'm guessing the most reasonable explanation (unless this is coming from a friend in a F2F transaction and he's doing you a solid favor) -- is that you will mail the SCT and never hear from the guy again.

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If I decide on them i will be going in person to check them out..
And I'm kinda leaning against them..if built for boost I'm sure it will dog down a n/a and I'm working another deal for cobra cams,intake and intake tube..
Would any of you guys need or want these ported heads and cams?? I can make it happen if it's worth our while..

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Well I past and got fenders and a bunch of other random stuff and $.. also guy had like 10 mark 8s and a bunch of stang and birds ..so if I ever need a part or work done I now have the guy..
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