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Which tires to get? (235|70|15) or (235|60|15)

Well, when I got my tires balanced/rotated today, the rear ones were so shot, that putting em up in the front would be useless. Well, I'm in need of some tires... and I don't wanna pay more than $300 for all 4. Also, do the stock rims fit 245|70|15's without rubbing? I've been looking on tire rack... but I'm still undecided between 235|70|15 or 235|60|15. Are there any benefits of having a taller tire?

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I would go with 235/60r15 if I were you, it won't make your speedometer near as far off as 235/70r15's would.

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Neither. 245/60-15. Nearly exact same as stock but with a lot bigger contact patch.

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I have to agree there.


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I got 235/60-15's.. there we're very little tires in 65 series.. and the tires that we're there were expensive. I would go with the 60 series.. it will make it about 1 - 2mph slow.. say if your speedo says 60, your really goin 58. So its a good thing if your speeding! =P Plus they look GREAT on my car.

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Your birdy is begging for 245s. Don't go smaller than 245/60, there is already enough wheelwell gap.
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Doesn't the car come stock with 70's?

Also, 245|60|15's wont rub? How about 245|70|15? Also, can you guys reccomend any models in that price range (Under $300 for all 4 tires).
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205/70r15 or 215/70r15. The second number is the ratio of the first that the sidewall is high. The larger the width, the smaller the sidewall to keep it the same height. I have not experienced any rubbing with my 245/60r15s. 245/70r15s would make your speedometer 6.2% slow. When your speedometer reads 60, you are travelling 63.7mph. Not a good idea for your driving record.

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Thanks for all the input guys! I just needed to see some numbers before I was convinced. Well, I guess it's the 245|60|15's then! BTW... can you reccomend any models for under $300 for all tires?
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245/60-15 Dunlop GT Qualifiers. Only like $62 each from TireRack.com. I ran two different sets. They have great traction and wear VERY well. Can't go wrong.

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Well, after going to a few places, they either refuse to put 245|60|15's on my rim, because of procedure, or say that my handling will goto sh*t. I guess I might have to either get em from Tirerack, but it'd end up being way over my budget (installation+shipping). I dunno.. I'll keep looking.
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They're nuts. They'll improve handling in a big way. You won't be sorry. Order the tires from TireRack and get some mom & pop tire store to mount and balance.

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This is awesome, after searching even longer and harder, I found a place that'll hook me up with 4 of these with 4 wheel-alignment, tire install and balance all for $315 out the door. I dunno, but this sounds like a pretty good deal.
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If you have a Discount Tire near you they will do it.

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This is awesome, after searching even longer and harder, I found a place that'll hook me up with 4 of these with 4 wheel-alignment, tire install and balance all for $315 out the door. I dunno, but this sounds like a pretty good deal.
Go for it, sounds like a good deal! Nice tires too! I like white lettering...lol.

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If you have a Discount Tire near you they will do it.
Yeah, I'm taking it to my local "Evan's Discount Tires."

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Go for it, sounds like a good deal! Nice tires too! I like white lettering...lol.
Yeah, white lettering is cool on muscle cars, but on my black Tbird, I'll keep the clean side out.
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Yeah, white lettering is cool on muscle cars, but on my black Tbird, I'll keep the clean side out.
Really?? Your going to leave the plain side out? Alot of people put the white lettering on there stock looking birds. My dad has them on his stock cougar and they look great. But if that is how you like it, go for it!



p.s. maybe everyone should post a pic of there bird with white lettering...hehe

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p.s. maybe everyone should post a pic of there bird with white lettering...hehe
Mine is, you can just barely see part of the lettering on the back though.

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This is awesome, after searching even longer and harder, I found a place that'll hook me up with 4 of these with 4 wheel-alignment, tire install and balance all for $315 out the door. I dunno, but this sounds like a pretty good deal.
One caution: recommended rim width range for that tire is 7"-9 1/2".
I'm not positive, but aren't your rims 6 1/2" wide?

Also: See if Discount Tire will match that deal plus include
road hazard warranties.
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Does anyone have a good pic of a 245/60 on a stock rim? I would think their would be some very ugly sidewall bulge. And if not, 245s are on my x-mas list !

Anyways, I just realized my car has 215/65/15's on it. I guess whoever had it last put the wrong size on. I guess my speedo is off They sure do look wimpy parked next to my Z28 with 295s though.

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One caution: recommended rim width range for that tire is 7"-9 1/2".
I'm not positive, but aren't your rims 6 1/2" wide?
You're right, most companies specify the minimum recommended wheel width to be 7", but you know they build in some margin for error to those numbers. That alone may not convince me, but a LOT of people on here have run that size on the stock 6.5" wheels with never a problem one. I have personally run two sets of the Dunlops on my car when I still had stock wheels. I've pushed it WAY farther than I would care to do on a regular basis and never had any issues. It's a perfect size to me.

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You're right, most companies specify the minimum recommended wheel width to be 7", but you know they build in some margin for error to those numbers. That alone may not convince me, but a LOT of people on here have run that size on the stock 6.5" wheels with never a problem one. I have personally run two sets of the Dunlops on my car when I still had stock wheels. I've pushed it WAY farther than I would care to do on a regular basis and never had any issues. It's a perfect size to me.
That's all I needed to hear. Awesome!
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Does anyone have a good pic of a 245/60 on a stock rim? I would think their would be some very ugly sidewall bulge. And if not, 245s are on my x-mas list !

Anyways, I just realized my car has 215/65/15's on it. I guess whoever had it last put the wrong size on. I guess my speedo is off They sure do look wimpy parked next to my Z28 with 295s though.
Look up.. I'm running 245/60r15's

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Oh and BFG Radial T/A's range starts at 6.5" wide.

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I found a couple more pics. I beleive these are Shawn40ths 245/60/15 Firestone Firehawks WITH WHITE LETTERS! ...hehe





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Damn! Those 245's have less bulge than my 215/65s!

Does anyone have a shot from the rear?
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I've got 245/60/15's BFG radials on my 15x7 wheels that came on my car they have a decent sidewall bulge and the tread looks a bit rounded also ( I use these at the strip) and I also need to drop the air pressure to 22psi to get a proper contact patch for the best traction. They work good though for street use also at 32psi, just the outside tread blocks don't quite touch the pavement
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Damn! Those 245's have less bulge than my 215/65s!

Does anyone have a shot from the rear?
Yeah, you're right. My 215|70|15's have A LOT of bulge... wow... can't wait to get mines now.
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Well, I went to go get my 245|60|15's today, and they only had 2 Dunlops, and 2 Remingtons, and seeing as how I paid for 4 Dunlops, they said that they'd exchange the tire if I am not satisfied. Well, I got the Dunlop GT Qualifier T's, but the guy insisted that Remington XT-120 CTR's are the same. Upon inspection, they are 95% similar same tread design, but just slightly different sidewalls. Did the guy pull a fast one on me?
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Well, I went to go get my 245|60|15's today, and they only had 2 Dunlops, and 2 Remingtons, and seeing as how I paid for 4 Dunlops, they said that they'd exchange the tire if I am not satisfied. Well, I got the Dunlop GT Qualifier T's, but the guy insisted that Remington XT-120 CTR's are the same. Upon inspection, they are 95% similar same tread design, but just slightly different sidewalls. Did the guy pull a fast one on me?

Don't settle for less. Looks like someone needs to go out and kick some tire-jockey butt. Who's in San Diego?

If you paid for 4 Dunlops, that's what you should have.

Edit (by Soop): Okay, STOP. Nobody go kick anybody's butt! Remingtons are Dunlops are Remingtons and so on and so on....

See this thread.

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