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Speed limiter=105m.p.h. How to disable? Aftermarket chip?What Kind?

I was wondering what you guys do to get rid of that stupid speed limiter on my 4.6.
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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 11-01-2002, 09:08 PM
 
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chip is the only option, one from dennis or dom or pete or fordchip.com. There all the same chip, just different people. Don't have any urls though.
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I wouldn't test out a removed speed limiter very much myself. You should get either a used driveshaft out of a 1993, note 1993, Lincoln Mark VIII. Or call and talk to Dennis about a Metal Matrix Driveshaft. Your stocker is a bigger POS than a 20yr old Rust Bucket Deluxe Yugo.

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ummmmm it isn't 105 it's 107.... unless they changed it from different years...
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I varies from car to car. Some people hit it at 105, mine hits it around 109. Its depends on your tires or something.

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Haha what you also have to think about is.... our speedo's aren't the most accurate in the world... mine i think tells wrong by +/- 2 MPH so who knows....
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Here we are...8 years later and we still have questions like..."how do I remove the speed limiter".

The limiter is based on many inputs and it's not exactly at 105 mph. Or could it be that your speedo is not 100% correct?

My speed governor kicked in at 4,650 rpm with my AED supercharged T-Bird when in third gear with a factory program in my EEC-V. N/V was 46.5 rpm/mph. The governor kicked in exactly at 103 mph according to Jimmy C. and the WINPEP software at LaRocca's performance.

I agree with these guys, you need good tires (V or ZR rated), a nice MMC driveshaft, at least an 11.25" Mark TC and flexplate and a chip from Fordchip.com or Dennis R.

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An added warning. Keep in mind how smooth the cars are. Removing the speed limiter has lead to another addiction on my part, and it involves 3 digits The cars are fast, and dont be suprised to find yourself cruising at a comphortable 100+ whenever possible, its addictive.
Deffinatly need v+ rated tires. Why V rated? because, under the righ t condidtions, a mildly modified Tbird will go that fast With a J 2.0 chip, 90mm Lmaf, 3:27s, and true dual exhaust my bird was locked in at 152mph via K band. Not sure what cougars will do, they have a higher drag coeficient.
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Why only a 93 mark VIII drive shaft? What kind of drive shafts did the Tbird SC's have? They did not have a speed limiter, right?
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Why only a 93 mark VIII drive shaft? What kind of drive shafts did the Tbird SC's have? They did not have a speed limiter, right?
caz the 93 mark 8 drive shaft is one piece

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all the birds and cougies have limiters... it's part of the EEC... Whenever I have my chip done, i'm going to ask to leave the speed limiter... just change it to 110... it sounds like a better number lol I don't like taking the chance of doing 120 or whatever and a driveshaft break.... not something i wanna go through so i figure might as well leave the speed limiter on there, cause if i take it off, i WILL break something.... i got a foot like no other man lol
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all the birds and cougies have limiters... it's part of the EEC... Whenever I have my chip done, i'm going to ask to leave the speed limiter... just change it to 110... it sounds like a better number lol I don't like taking the chance of doing 120 or whatever and a driveshaft break.... not something i wanna go through so i figure might as well leave the speed limiter on there, cause if i take it off, i WILL break something.... i got a foot like no other man lol
i took my speed limiter off and i have been over 120 many times i am not saying its safe it viberates after 120 just a little but i still got the stock drive shaft and stock suspention soon i will put some eibach springs and a better
drive shaft but the bird is in th garage for the winter so i dont need thouse now i got time

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So basically the speed limiter is only based on the org. speed rating of the tires, not the construction of the drive shaft, right? What was the speed limiter on the super coupes from the factory? Lastly, what type construction is the drive shaft on the police crown vics?

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So basically the speed limiter is only based on the org. speed rating of the tires, not the construction of the drive shaft, right? What was the speed limiter on the super coupes from the factory? Lastly, what type construction is the drive shaft on the police crown vics?

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a crown vic is a longer platform their drive shaft is loger , and i dont not want to give u the wront answer to ur question , by putin a mark 8 DShaft or whatever a aluminum one is lighter then the ones we have and it will turn better at higher rpm , correct me if im wrong people

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No matter what the SC guys tell you, they have limiters. The man told me, the '94-'95 SC was limited to about 125 mph. He should know best.

Some of the 4.6L Police cars use a Metal Matrix Composite driveshaft. I believe they switched back to aluminum and set the limiters lower in the later years.

The CV Police cars were set as follows.

1998 were set at 130 mph with 3.27:1 gears, but were known to reach 135 mph on a flat road. 1999 weren't limited electronically and have been known to reach 140 mph with 3.55:1 gears. They also have been known to fail the 4R70W rear tailshift bushing and drop driveshafts. 2000 was electronically limited to 125 mph with 3.55:1 gears. I have no data on '01 and '02 Police cars. This info comes from a post that Bill W. made about 2 years ago and he worked on that Panther platform for NVH problems.

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Break the driveshaft? I doubt it. Most likey it will fail the tailshaft bushing, then spin it. The shaft will be forced out as the bushing galls up and it will drop. The shaft will break the weak safety loop near the rear pumpkin and force the gas tank down while you and your car catches fire...then explodes. I mean that is worst case...of course.

Care to quess what speed I was at when this photo was snapped? I'll give you a hint, 225/55ZR-16 tires with a 3rd gear pull to 5,600 rpm.

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Umm, lets see... I peg my limiter at 4250 in 3rd with 3.27s...lets just say you were going RATHER fast!

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hmmm I don't hit my SL until i'm in OD.... i shift into OD at 103 so i would imagine i'm doing like 3500 or so in OD when i hit it...
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My car shifts into OD just before smacking the limiter in 3rd. Therefore I hit it right around 3100rpm in OD, but when I smack it, I've generally got OD locked out because I'm squeezin every horse out of it.

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man is it nice when you're cruising at 70 with the OD off and you stomp on it... lol it's ALL power baby
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I would worry about your drive shaft unless:
A- it already has a vibration
B- you plan on cruising at such speeds for a looong time.

I ran my 95 at 120 + all the time, whenever possible, it had 3:27s. I live in an area with some nice, big, wide, new freeways. Whay happened to the 95? Look at A-trains post, about the tail shaft. I messed it up pretty good, it leaked out the extension housing, right onto the 3rd cat, burned, smoked, very classy.
My 96 has seen 140+ quite a bit, and even 15+ a few times, but I use more restraint, and the tranny doesnt leak. BTW, thats on a stock drive shaft, no vibrations.

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well you could always find the "pol pkg" plug and plug it in. if i remember right its located on the passengers side behind the dash, you have to pull the dash all out its kind of a pain to get at it thats why not alot of people do the mod. but it does remove the speed limiter. and the acceleration it gives, WOW!!! gotta love it.

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tell me more of this remove speed limiter mod... my friend with a V8 wants it off her car lol
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well you could always find the "pol pkg" plug and plug it in. if i remember right its located on the passengers side behind the dash, you have to pull the dash all out its kind of a pain to get at it thats why not alot of people do the mod. but it does remove the speed limiter. and the acceleration it gives, WOW!!! gotta love it.
BWHAHAHAHA!!! Revived! Man, keith, you dug way back for that one.
So, ehh, who here has the guts to try it?

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Time to get out the rubber boots and hip waders, it could get prety deep in here...


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Ford Chip or Reinhart ?

I have learned of both of these companies that sell chips . Which one is better? What kind of gains in power have you noticed? Is it worth a couple of tenths in the 1/4 maybe 1 mph in the 1/4. Also what is the Jerry mod about? Thanks Again for all your help.
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there the same thing. I had my eec tuned by the guy that is the "father" of these chips, dyno proven gains of aprox. 14 hp and torque.
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