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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 11-27-2007, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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i found a rebiuld kit on summitracing.com for $600,and is it a good idea to rebiuld a 94 t-bird engine,cause i thougt it would be cheaper,because i need cheaper
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I think it would be ok for a short block but you need different heads (96+ with F5 casting). The ones you have are junk and it would not be prudent to put those back on a fresh motor. You'll still need to have machine work done so figure another couple hundred dollars. Then having some heads reworked would be another few hundred, so in the end you'll have around $1,200 or so into it. You could find a good used one for cheaper than that.

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Is it easier to do rebiuld or swap?And what kind of equipment do i need to do a swap?
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how much does it all cost to do a swap....please tell me
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It depends on what kind of motor you find. If it's high mileage it will be cheap (~$300-$500) but one with reasonably low miles might go for around $700 or so. You can use any 4.6L SOHC motor up to 1998 and use all your engine components on it. If possible look for a 96+ so that you get the benefit of the better head design.

I just searched on car-part.com and found a 4.6L with 35k miles for $1,000 and another with 57k for $600.

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Or you can find a PI Explorer motor for reasonably cheap.I got mine for $1100 with 2k miles on it.Best money I ever spent.But because I was swaping it into a 95 car I had to find some extra parts.Alot of parts I bought new.But the motor had a Electronic Throttle body which involve me finding a new plenum,IAC,and a 96 Throttle body.I got that stuff from a member here for pretty cheap but I had to buy a new EGR valve.After everything was all said and done and installed I had spent just over $1800.Then I got it tuned for maximum perfomace which set me back another $500.

If you are to look at swaping a PI Explorer look for an 02 as you will not have to swap the Plenum and other top end parts.

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can you trust the people on car-parts.com??
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can you trust the people on car-parts.com??
car-part.com is a site the looks at the listed stock of hundreds of car junkyards over the country. Its not just one guy or one company. I'd assume that they are all professional car recycling companies. However each one is probably a little different. Im sure some have warranties for certain items. I bought a used tranny for my brothers tbird, and it had a 90 day replacement warranty. I thought that was decent. Do your homework, call around and ask lots of questions.

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ok,if i bought a engine for $600 and it work just fine what would it cost to make it go vrom vrom in my car,with no mods...thanks
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If you want it to go "Vrom-vrom" you'll have to mod it, lol! But if you want a stock engine that'll give you more power then what you have in there now go with a 99+ PI, but your going to be paying more then $600.

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no just a small upgrade for now,cause i have a very small job, and need to get a new engine soon,and possibly a tranny
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then in that case, you'll just have to settle for a stock replacement without the vroom-vroom option...going fast costs money, plain and simple
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you can still chip it can't you,and still do mods to it latter......right?
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Yes you can chip it at any time, but if you chip it and then make mods, you'll need to get the chip reburned for the said mods. This will end up costing more.

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ah,see i didn't know that,you guys have done this stuff a bit haven't you
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well still know more than me,thats not sayin much
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but if i got the stock engine what would be a good mod for less $$
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good mod for less than the cost of a chip? drive only on downhill slopes

seriously man, when i said going fast costs money, i meant it......unless you can get a trak-lock differential, 4.10 gears, and have them installed for less than $300, less money than that will not make an appreciable difference in acceleration what so ever......there is not a mystical part on your car that when tightened/loosened, turned/rotated, or otherwise change the orientation of said part with a screwdriver/ratchet/wrench will suddenly drop your 0-60mph times or 1/4mi times

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Best plan for minimal effort / money:

99+ PI engine
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That would cost you about $1400 if you did all the work yourself and you'd be shocked at the difference it would make. After those mods, the next area of interest would be the trans / converter.

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well that might be ok,it would take me some time to get $1400 but that might do it.

oh and my climate control will not work on any thing but defrost,and its cold here in tennessee..help please..its so cold........so cold
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where do yall go to get all you stuff for proformance. =]
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well that might be ok,it would take me some time to get $1400 but that might do it.

oh and my climate control will not work on any thing but defrost,and its cold here in tennessee..help please..its so cold........so cold
That's what happens when the vacuum to the climate control is missing. It defaults to the defrost mode so that you can still defrost/defog the windows. I would start by checking the vacuum tee by the firewall near the A/C lines and make sure nothing is broken. If everything is ok, you might have to pull the climate control unit and look at the lines, trace them out, and make sure nothing is disconnected.

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where do yall go to get all you stuff for proformance. =]
There is no single place. Summit Racing, Blue Oval Chips, SCP, Ford Parts Counter, DirtyDog Performance, BC-Automotive, etc. I mean the list could be infinite.

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thanks.....where is the vacum tee,ac lines and firewall.....sorry i'm stupid
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is there a place you can go to do a 5.4l swap,and how much would it cost.....thanks
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thanks.....where is the vacum tee,ac lines and firewall.....sorry i'm stupid
The firewall is the structural wall of the car that seperates the passenger compartment from the engine bay...and the A/C lines run along the passenger shock tower and go into the firewall. The vacuum tee is right beside the A/C lines, by the firewall.

No offense but it sounds like you don't know too much about cars. It's really not prudent to attempt to diagnose a problem like this, especially over the internet and if it's your first time.

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is there a place you can go to do a 5.4l swap,and how much would it cost.....thanks
Generally a shop that will do this kind of work will charge out the ass for this kind of swap IF you can find one that will do it. But a 5.4L swap isn't the best bang for the buck swap and the power it outputs doesn't merit it going into the car.

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