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Can I shoe horn a Mark VIII Rad into my 94 Tbird? I think the Mark is a 97. I found it on a junkyard run this weekend. Looked like a t-bone accident. Engine looks fine. Rad is there, not bent. Marks have bigger rads no?

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It will bolt right in...it's the same radiator that your car came with stock.

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It will bolt right in...it's the same radiator that your car came with stock.

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Damn, oh well. Was hoping it would help her run cooler. Thanks any way.

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03-04 cobra radiators fit in with minimal mods,ive got one in my car and picked it up for around 100 bucks.

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03-04 cobra radiators fit in with minimal mods,ive got one in my car and picked it up for around 100 bucks.
True. I have one in my XR7, too. You may have a hard time finding one in a junkyard though.

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You can get them through the ford parts counter. Fubarian got one and the fan for around $170 IIRC.

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You can get them through the ford parts counter. Fubarian got one and the fan for around $170 IIRC.
A 03-04 Cobra radiator and fan? When I ordered mine through Jason almost a year ago, it was $391.78 for the radiator, fan, and pigtail.

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like I said...IIRC (If I Remember Correctly)....and apparently I don't....(thanks Rod...)

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Sorry, if that came across the wrong way, Josh. I didn't mean for it to sound harsh or anything.

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No offense taken. Was supposed to be funny....

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No offense taken. Was supposed to be funny....
Cool.

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Anyone know what the cobra one ways vs the stocker?

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Does the Mark 8 fan just plug into the stock wiring harness for the 94 4.6 fan??? I am assuming that that the shroud will fit the stock radiator.

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Yes and yes.

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Can I shoe horn a Mark VIII Rad into my 94 Tbird? I think the Mark is a 97. I found it on a junkyard run this weekend. Looked like a t-bone accident. Engine looks fine. Rad is there, not bent. Marks have bigger rads no?
Not to jack your thread or anything, but I could really use the EGR tube of a 97 Mark. Right now I have a cap for the port on the header so I can run without it, but I would like have one installed so if I ever have to pass emissions it won't be too much hassle. The local bone yard never has them. Let me know the $$$ if it isn't too much trouble and you feel like making a couple bucks.

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Yes and yes.

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Does anything else need to be swapped or rewired for the mark fan to work in the 94 bird? Or is it as simple as plugging in the Tbird harness into the Mark8 fan?

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you will severely shorten the life of your alternator and battery because the mark VIII fan is a single speed, so the only wire that powers it is rigged up to the high-speed circuit.....and upon initial start-up, needs about 80A of current....such a current draw is not good...that is why the mark VIII pcm uses a PWM voltage signal to control the duty cycle of its fan
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I see what your mean.....when the fan kicks on the voltmeter drops but recovers right away. But it sure does cool things off in a hurry when it kicks on.

So what do I need to get from the Mark (there's only one at the pic-a-part, and its complete-engine and everything), to make it work correctly???

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Not to jack your thread or anything, but I could really use the EGR tube of a 97 Mark. Right now I have a cap for the port on the header so I can run without it, but I would like have one installed so if I ever have to pass emissions it won't be too much hassle. The local bone yard never has them. Let me know the $$$ if it isn't too much trouble and you feel like making a couple bucks.

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You will need to get creative with that one... High temperature silicone hose and copper tubing will work.


Gotta keep things tight though.


So will copper tubing and more expensive high temperature Swagelok fittings...

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There were several different cooling fans used in the Mark. I believe the earlier ones were 2-speed and higher flow than the TBird.

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None are single speed... The 93-96 spin 1,100 RPM on low speed and 1,850 RPM on high speed. The 97-98 spin 1,800 RPM on low and 2,225 RPM on high.

I just went with a big ole Griffin and a stock fan for starters. No need to change electronics.


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None are single speed... The 93-96 spin 1,100 RPM on low speed and 1,850 RPM on high speed. The 97-98 spin 1,800 RPM on low and 2,225 RPM on high.
But the Gen II's do use PWM to power the fan based on what the manual says (IIRC).

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I think you are missing the obvious here. If you are running too hot there is a problem and a bigger rad isn't the answer unless you old one is clogged.

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ahah in the winter time my cobra radiator keeps my **** at 168-171.... And I have a 180 degree thermastat I replaced the 160 that was in there. damn thing was keeping the car at like 155 last winter before I changed it out. But yes... Cobra Fan cools things off pretty damn quickly.

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