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Finally some decently priced adjustable cam gears!

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...d.php?t=102167

http://www.cloyes.com/HighPerformanc...S/Default.aspx

http://www.cloyes.com/Portals/10/New...6L%20Flyer.pdf

hopefully these are the holy grail of adjustable cam gears, so we dont have to pay the equivalent of an extra set of cams just for some cam timing adjustability!
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Only other Cam Gears are made by OBX (some chinaland company) and are $149 on ebay.

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Only other Cam Gears are made by OBX (some chinaland company) and are $149 on ebay.
Those look like the Fidanza/Comp Cams adjustable gears. I bought a set shortly after they came out, but shipped them back to Summit for a refund when I read about them slipping and trashing engines. Turns out, my cams are only about 1.5 degrees apart with the stock gears anyways.

I can't really tell how those Cloyes gears hold their position. Does anyone know?

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Unlike many adjustable cam gears the Cloyes gears do not rely on a series of small bolts to keep it from moving under load. They use two small bolts to keep the gear from moving while you are timing the engine, but it relies on the large factory cam bolt to keep everything in place under load. The factory cam bolt sandwiches the two pieces of the adjustable gear to keep it in place, which is much more reliable.
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Only other Cam Gears are made by OBX (some chinaland company) and are $149 on ebay.
or L&M gears....




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2V crank gears - each gear can provide +-8 degrees independently.

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yea i remember greenbird mentioning the L&M gears, but those are still in the ~$500 range IIRC and provide finite adjustability in increments, where as with these it might be possible to dial them in more accurately.....at this price, i just might convince myself to grab a set
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yea i remember greenbird mentioning the L&M gears, but those are still in the ~$500 range IIRC and provide finite adjustability in increments, where as with these it might be possible to dial them in more accurately.....at this price, i just might convince myself to grab a set
Call Michael. A set of two adjustable crank gears should be significantly less than $500.

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Maybee I read something wrong....

But... The little adjustment slider that is on the front of the gear gets samwiched between the bolt and sprocket when you torque it down to the cam?

I might have learned something wrong somewhere down the line, but I always thought we put a washer under the heads of bolts to devide the pressure of torquing the bolt down among 4 surfaces instead of two...

So... We have the factory bolt, then the slider on the adjustable gear, and then the actual sprocket being samwiched togeather... Wouldn't that effectively turn the adjustable part of the sprocket into a washer of sorts, and devide the compression force of the bolt between more surfaces?

I'm no expert here, but it still doesn't seem confidence inspiring enough for me... Its MUCH better looking than the Fidanza gears, yet I think I'll stick to removing some mass from the keyway.

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Call Michael. A set of two adjustable crank gears should be significantly less than $500.

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while that may be true, if i wanted to advance/retard the cams for optimum area under the power curve while renting out a dyno, i would not want to have to take off the timing cover each time....i would want to simply remove the valve covers and work from there
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