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intercooler for 96?

will this mod for for the 96 models or is there another mod? http://www.tccoa.com/articles/mn12ho...it-94-95sc.htm
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You want to use an intercooler fan on a 96 n/a 4.6?

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Do you have a centrifugal supercharger? This mod is for the S/C, which actually has an intercooler.

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well my car has many cooling issues and I was hoping to keep engine temp cooler.
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bub, it's not a radiator for your car.
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well my car has many cooling issues and I was hoping to keep engine temp cooler.
Well, what has been replaced, cooling system wise? How many miles on the engine? when is the last time it was serviced? What mods, if any, do you have done?

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172k and i've already replaced the therm, radiator, ect sensor and water pump. I still seem to have cooling issues though, the only thing that I haven't replaced that might is the heater core(which is broken.)
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How clean is the condenser? Also, have you been able to see what the temps really are? Meaning, looking at what the computer is really seeing?

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sorry if i seem new to fixing these my specialty is on the escorts/focus's. I can see what the gauge on the dash says but it seems really inaccurate. is there a more accurate way to measure the engine temp? what is meant by condenser?
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you need to rent an obdII scanner to see the actual coolant temperature straight from the pcm

the condensor on these cars is the same as any other car--it's in front of the radiator.
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so the condenser is the radiator looking thing in front of the radiator? just to be safe, because it is not mentioned in either the haynes or chilton.
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yep, how else does the refrigerant shed the heat it collects from the interior of the cabin? rhetorical question.
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I think you need to read your manuals again! lol

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I am asking these questions because I honestly do not know and have never had to replace or service a condenser. I am not asking these questions as a form of spam.
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Is your fan turning on? May sound stupid, but sometimes the resolution is slapping you in the face. I had cooling issues and the motor on my fan was toast. Swapped it out, problem solved. I'll be moved up to Everett end of next month, as mentioned a while ago. I'll give you a hand if/when needed.
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My car had cooling issues years ago when I first got it. I replaced everything (some things twice):
Thermostat, water pump, hoses, radiator, fan, etc, etc.

The only thing the worked to keep mine cool was the 2003 Cobra radiator upgrade - I paid $100 used from a yard.
After I swapped that in (and adding an external tranny cooler), my engine stopped overheating.

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I'd be curious what the tranny temps were. It's crazy how y'all can't keep a stock engine cool with the stock stuff for normal driving. I have my transmission cooler in front of my condenser, in front of the radiator and I don't have any cooling problems.

Rick, did you get to see what the computer was seeing?

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I read this article here http://www.tccoa.com/articles/overall/polint.html about the police interceptors that have 3 core radiators. think this might be a possible solution.
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1st thing to check, does the car have the air dam under the front bumper?
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Does it over heat while driving, pulling a hill, idling at a stop light
or all of the above? Then we can get closer to the problem.

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I thought my car was running hot because the gauge was always reading at 3/4 mark, but I bought a scanner as suggested here on the forums and verified that the fan kicks on as per the specs, so either my gauge is way off or I need to replace CTS
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I read this article here http://www.tccoa.com/articles/overall/polint.html about the police interceptors that have 3 core radiators. think this might be a possible solution.
I think it's high time you actually try diagnosing it before you keep seeking our approval for random solutions and throwing parts at it.

The gauge senders do seem to go wonky on these cars over time and start giving alarming readings after a while. Cross checking the actual temp via a scanner will verify this and let you see what kind of temps you're actually hitting.

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I think it's high time you actually try diagnosing it before you keep seeking our approval for random solutions and throwing parts at it.

The gauge senders do seem to go wonky on these cars over time and start giving alarming readings after a while. Cross checking the actual temp via a scanner will verify this and let you see what kind of temps you're actually hitting.
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The gauge senders do seem to go wonky on these cars over time and start giving alarming readings after a while. Cross checking the actual temp via a scanner will verify this and let you see what kind of temps you're actually hitting.
There's a TSB for the pre-1994 1-wire senders reading LOW due to a bad crimp in manufacturing, and a TSB for later 1-wire senders reading HIGH due to a bad construction.

I'm agreeing - check it with a scanner FIRST. THEN worry about the gauge.

Otherwise, hey, it's your (generic, not yours, Matt!) money that's being wasted.

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true that, mine dose this.

i scanned it, and it was fine, i checked it with a temp gun, and it was fine.

pretty sure the CTS isn't working, or isn't deep enough in my PI crossover to get good sampling.

i just ignore it now, gauge goes above the R in norm once in a blue moon, otherwise its just slightly warmer then i remember.

on a side note though, when i got my car back in the day. my condenser was completely blocked with all sorts of dirt, foliage, and animal hair. it caused the car to run pretty warm.

i popped off the cooling fan, and ran a hose pipe sprayer through the radiator from the engine compartment out, blew all that junk off and it ran down by the N from then on. should have seen the brown water running down the driveway... it was horrible.

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its a blown head gasket.

after taking the car to 2 mechanic the consensus is a blown hg. since the gasket is blown I may as well do the pi upgrade. http://www.tccoa.com/articles/engine/piheads.html
are there any alternative cars that would have this?

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after taking the car to 2 mechanic the consensus is a blown hg. since the gasket is blown I may as well do the pi upgrade. http://www.tccoa.com/articles/engine/piheads.html
are there any alternative cars that would have this?
tons of cars/trucks have PI heads. While you do the research on how to time the cams, you will undoubtedly find tons of information on which other cars/years also have PI heads.

Also, why do you say there is a "consensus"? Did you all just stand around the car and talk about it and agree on it? Or was actual diagnosis/verification done by the mechanic?

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99 and up Mustangs, 2001 and up CV, GM, Town Car, 2001-2004 2V 4.6L Explorers should have PI heads.

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