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Will a 01 gt motor be good for a pi swap onto my 95 tbird? I've been reading on here and found some mixed info on the 01 specifically. The motor I'm looking at has lower end noise but only has 60k miles so it should be a decent candidate if the parts swap. Thanks for any help
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Lower end noise on an 01 is likely to be tensioner guide related, in one way or another.

Plastic tensioners, no latch, and crumbly plastic guides. Search, there are pix all over the web, in all the "Donor Vehicles" forums.

I did this to my 03 engine:




There is an even later revision to the guides; get the latest ones. I'll replace them when I take the cover off to do cams, lol.


If The tensioner guide is making the noise, damage May be minimal, and the whole engine is ok.

If it died due to oil pressure, then the heads are toast, as well as it having (probably) rod knock due to dead bearings...

Pieces of the guide clogging the intake have been found in early PI engines; the heads are Way more oil sensitive than the lower end.

If the lower end was waste, the cam journals are too. YMMV.

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That's all good to know thanks for that info, but mainly now I am just trying to confirm that this engine will have the correct heads/intake to upgrade my 95 providing the heads and all on the gt are in good shape. The price is right for me to take a chance so if the stuff fits I'll buy it and then tear it down and check it out.

On a side note I didn't think this was my first post here. I'm over on sccoa more I have a 89 SC modded and a 95 LX V8 with only 48k miles all stock minus rims and tires/tint.
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It will have PI heads and intake for sure. Since it is a complete engine everything is already bolted together. All you need is the usual "PI intake swap" stuff for your 95.
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yep, take her down to the block and heads
check the lower end bearings for play
look up inside the bores for scoring
pop off the cams and check the journals
replace the chains guides and tensioners(and yes, avoid the all plastic guides, some good pics here http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/....php?p=1826146)
then reseal everything back up with new gaskets and seals
then stuff her in and see what happens

heck, couldn't hurt to just replace the bearings on the crank while your down their.
new oil pump wouldn't hurt either.

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I'm not planning on swapping the motor... just a head swap, my motor sounds new still only 48k miles
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ah, well its still 18 years old, rubber seals don't last forever. but if your going that direction have the heads worked over and machined smooth. new head bolts, all that stuff.

then take a look through http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?t=136894

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I'm not planning on swapping the motor... just a head swap, my motor sounds new still only 48k miles
It is possible that it may be a Windsor 4.6. 99s and 00's had them for sure, but there is always some overlap when engines switch, so there is a tiny chance it will not be a Romeo engine. Check the casting # on the heads then compare them to the casting #s from the Sticky in this very forum.
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It is possible that it may be a Windsor 4.6. 99s and 00's had them for sure, but there is always some overlap when engines switch, so there is a tiny chance it will not be a Romeo engine. Check the casting # on the heads then compare them to the casting #s from the Sticky in this very forum.
And Windsor would be the non-compatible ones correct? I'm gonna be checking the motor out Friday.
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And Windsor would be the non-compatible ones correct? I'm gonna be checking the motor out Friday.
No. Read the sticky in this forum that pertains to this.
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I can't find any info in the sticky about casting numbers. Only things I find say differences you can see inside the motor.
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If they are Windsor heads (13 bolts for valve covers instead of 11) then you need to drill out some of the front cover bolt holes and make sure you get the bolts from the donor, and obviously the valve covers that are on it.

Luckily this is still a forum and not just a reference site, but a search here and on other mod motor sites the information is easy to find.

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