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Tunes on a 4.6 car

Ok so it has been the better part of 10 years since I have messed with the EEC tuning on these 4.6 cars. What works for our cars? I have a 95 with a stock 4.6 one of the first mods I will be completing is most likely a tlok, gears and a tune. Just to put things into perspective m 96 I had was running a ford chip, witch I believe turned into SCT. That was a plug in on the back of the ECM though.

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There's a whole forum here devoted to tuning http://forums.tccoa.com/12-eec-tuning/ but long story short you can get a tuner that allows you to either modify it yourself with a laptop, you can have a chip mailed back and forth for tuning, or you can be emailed tunes. Of course if you are near a shop that does tuning and has a dyno that's even better.

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I have a chip that was tuned by Blue Oval Chips, but I think it's leaving a lot on the table.

If I were to get a new mail order tune, and then a dyno tune, would I remove the add on chip, or do I leave it in there and just reprogram it with the tuner?
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I have a 95 with a stock 4.6 one of the first mods I will be completing is most likely a tlok, gears and a tune.
Not meaning to be a jerk, but you were sleeping yesterday when I posted about a brand new trak-lok for sale on ebay.

To find one, you will have to have an active search on ebay and check daily like I did. It took me 2 months to find one.

I have a used one for a solid axle I can sell you, but you the side gears will need beveled to use it in an IRS pumpkin.

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we use to do that all the time back in the day. Solid axle ones are everywhere.

How much for either of your tloks?

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I have a chip that was tuned by Blue Oval Chips, but I think it's leaving a lot on the table.

If I were to get a new mail order tune, and then a dyno tune, would I remove the add on chip, or do I leave it in there and just reprogram it with the tuner?
I think they can use either the chip you have or sell you a flash programmer.

I have an Xcal, and bought the SCT PRP package that lets me do my own tunes.

I would call Don Lasota and buy a new tune from him, or buy the PRP and you get a basic tune for your car with it.

Looks like the PRP and an Xcal4 is ~$750.

You want the flash programmer if you want to change it a bunch while your getting it right.

And you need one flash programmer per car, if you own multiples.
You have to provide proof of ownership and vins for the cars you want to program, as well.

IDK about chip burners doing 100 rewrites...

Getting my transmission shift schedule right took the most writes, iirc.
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I think they can use either the chip you have or sell you a flash programmer.

I have an Xcal, and bought the SCT PRP package that lets me do my own tunes.

I would call Don Lasota and buy a new tune from him, or buy the PRP and you get a basic tune for your car with it.

Looks like the PRP and an Xcal4 is ~$750.

You want the flash programmer if you want to change it a bunch while your getting it right.

And you need one flash programmer per car, if you own multiples.
You have to provide proof of ownership and vins for the cars you want to program, as well.

IDK about chip burners doing 100 rewrites...

Getting my transmission shift schedule right took the most writes, iirc.
Already planned on a LaSota tune, I used a flash tuner for my Mustang, and am familiar with them. My real question is, do I pull the add on chip before applying the flash tune, or leave it in?
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Already planned on a LaSota tune, I used a flash tuner for my Mustang, and am familiar with them. My real question is, do I pull the add on chip before applying the flash tune, or leave it in?
Pull it; it overrides the stock program.

It wouldn't let you program it with the chip installed.
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Pull it; it overrides the stock program.

It wouldn't let you program it with the chip installed.
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we use to do that all the time back in the day. Solid axle ones are everywhere.

How much for either of your tloks?
You must have good parts source, it took me a month to find a used one. 28 spline units are getting rare. Below is mine.

http://forums.tccoa.com/20-parts-sal...-trak-lok.html

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