Matt, I have already sourced the 08 P71 engine, I have sourced the PI Heads. I have sourced the 95 Lincoln motor and trans option. But it seems to me, the consensus is explorer swap.
but I don't have explorer swap money, and these guys.. yea, I think it might snap the mechanics brain stem He don't listen too good.
All Crown Vic motors after 2002 are already PI. You don't need another set of heads. The Lincoln motor with PI heads (if it's out of a Town Car) will give you 10.3:1 compression, which will give you around 270-280hp at the crank with a good tune. The 95 Lincoln motor probably doesn't have the right fuel rails for a PI Swap though.
Remember , I gave the brief story, While the intake manifold was off, Ihad the car towed... and not all the fluid was drained apparently. So I can see where SOME water /coolant moved from water jacket to ..intake jacket, but it's not starting.. they got it cranking, but not started, which I attribute to that awesome wiring harness tied down every 6 inches..
What is an "intake jacket"? Is there water in the intake manifold? Turn it upside down, it'll run out. No biggie.
I've got the EGR disconnected as well as one of the O2 sensors id disconnected, so if she lights, it won't be pretty ini`tially.
hey,,, , for now, I;m using existing gear, but I've got a 99 wiring harness and fuel rail with regulators and coil pods from a P71... would that boost any performance? no?
Won't work at all. Use your wiring harness. Remember, the P71 is the exact same engine as the 99-04 Mustang, the 2002-2005 Explorer (except Iron block in CV vs. Aluminum for the Explorer), the 2002-end of life Crown Vic, Gran Marquis, Town Car. ALL PI 4.6V8 have the same heads, cams, etc. Minor variations in intake manifold, exhaust routing, and ECM Tune is what makes for the different power levels between them. The P71 got 10hp more than the civilian Crown Vic thanks to a dual exhaust. They also had either 3.27 or 3.55 gearing, making for quicker acceleration. Other than that, motors are identical.
I know I mis wired the plug wires thats why she wasn't starting.
ok, feed back, please..
I"ve got two auctions Friday and Saturday full of explorers, but only 2 with 4.6s.
what about a Lincoln? 4.6 vs my 4.6?
As I said before, depends on what Lincoln it came out of. If it is a town car, it's identical to your existing motor. If it's out of a Mark VIII, it's DOHC, and a definite step up (280hp crank and aluminum Teksid block). If it's out of a Continental, it's useless as it won't mate to your transmission.
Another question... if I swap motors, can I pull the ECM ( ?) from the donor car and replace the one in my 95? You guys talk about tunes tunes tunes, why not just grab the Host ECM too?
Because the host ECM has different parameters than what your car has. Some cars had knock sensors (ours don't), some cars had extra temp sensors, some cars had other variables that we just don't have. If it was as simple as swapping in an Explorer or Mustang ECU, we'd all be doing it. If you're going through all the trouble of an engine swap, why skimp out on $500 ($400 for Xcal, $100 for tune)and have it run like crap? Do it right or don't do it.
You can always get an XCal on Ebay for $200 or so. New they're $400. Make sure it's unlocked before buying, or then you need to spend an additional $150 to unlock it. A tune is only $100 or so, and well worth it.
I'm putting a 2003 Explorer motor in my car right now. I have ported heads, Stage 2 cams, and I spent the money on an Xcal and am getting a tune sent to me. You don't have to get it dyno tuned, a mail order tune will get you running properly and at least 95% of total power. A dyno tune will squeeze the last few out, but isn't strictly necessary.
Check out LaSota Racing Ford Tuning & Training
and see how much his tunes cost. He literally wrote the book on it, and he's good at it. He'll have you running till you want to go to a dyno.
97 Thunderbird LX (The GT Bird)
2003 Explorer WAP block with Modular Head Shop "street ported" heads and Stage 2 PI NA cams, 75mm Accufab throttle body, C&L upper intake plenum, Kooks 1.75" primary/3" collector headers, 2.5" full exhaust with mid mount Magnaflow dual in/out muffler, 24lb/hr injectors, 80mm MAF, Tuning from Don @ www.lasotaracing.com
, CAI that feeds from fenderwell. Jmod, 3.73:1 TL in Mark VIII carrier, Mark VIII aluminum LCAs, 93 Mark VIII driveshaft, PBR brakes (soon to be Cobras), 18x9 wheels with 35mm offset, 255/40/ZR18 Tires, Front and Rear strut/shock bracing, GR-2 shocks, Eibach 1.5" springs, 1989 SC front and rear sway bars.