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Cone filter in fender?

Just wanting to get some opinions on the best way to move my K&N cone filter out of the hot engine bay and into the cooler fender? It's a 95' 4.6L. Thanks in advance for all suggestions, and even better, pictures!!!
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my opinion...go to home depot and get some 3" (or so i believe..) of pvc piping...and make your own...and also get some 3inch rubber connector with the clamps...in the end it will end up something like this...TOTAL of piping and clamps:$9+cone filter

i picked up two 90degree bends...so its like a S shape now...urs might be a little different on the top of the intake...so go and search around for the richard M intake tube, all finish it all off.also if u dont have the air filter yet...make sure u get a cone filter that fits under there.

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This is a more expensive way to do it but it looks much better. Just depends on what you want to waste, i mean spend your $ on.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=38634

THe only problem is that this 1 comes with a new cone filter.
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that seems like a helluva deal, if it came with a K&N filter.....................

Do you have any idea what kind of filter that is? Is it even an oiled filter? Are there knock-offs that are a good as K&N's?

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KnN is the best in my oppinion... My friend bought one of those Red or Blue aftermarket filters that was made of a civic and put it on his SHO . The filter slowed him down and didn't work hardly at all...I would only go with KnN...Thats just me

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I have heard that Aceel's Cool blue filters are the best flowing when bench tested due to there much deeper ridges. Plus they are made from some miracle material and there is no need for oiling, thus no oil on the MAF throughing things off, but I still have a k&n in my car, and have had no probelms.

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accel, K&N, BBK, MAC, im sure they all have good filters.....i wouldnt trust those 20 dollar pep boys spunges they sell and play off as filters.....one i swear was just a dish washing spunge shaped like a dome.....scary that filters air to your engine......it was blue and pretty so im sure rice love it...

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like this -
just use silencer for parts.
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just use silencer for parts.
just hope you didn't run into a lake.......

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anyone have a link or something on where i can find a metal tube...or something that looks better than the stock rubber tube, for the tube that runs from the throttle body to the MAF...c&l makes one for the GT 4.6s but thats kinda expensive...

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just hope you didn't run into a lake.......
It's not any lower than the stock intake.

Filters don't mean jack in the big picture, as long as they do their job well. If you want to spend your money on a blue filter, go ahead....it helps the economy.




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I tried that once but i couldn't kit the box sealed . It didn't work but i have changed it with the mustang tube. but thanks for the info
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I tried that once but i couldn't kit the box sealed . It didn't work but i have changed it with the mustang tube. but thanks for the info
Did you ever buy weatherstripping for the airbox?

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nope didn't think about at the time.I will say this it was a ***** getting the cone [email protected] with the tube to fit in the fender. drove it for a day didn't like and put it back to the way i had . www.geocities.com/thunderbird9666061
I went back to the stock tube wrapped in heat tape after that and just recently put on the stang tube click on my name jason jobe and you can see the pics
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This is a more expensive way to do it but it looks much better. Just depends on what you want to waste, i mean spend your $ on.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=38634

THe only problem is that this 1 comes with a new cone filter.

That is exactly what I want, where can you find those!? Ebay doesn't seem to havew any more.

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I'd like to get the K&N FIPK but i cant find how much it will cost and etc... Anyone know a site where i could order one from a good one I can spend maybe 150-250$

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I'd like to get the K&N FIPK but i cant find how much it will cost and etc... Anyone know a site where i could order one from a good one I can spend maybe 150-250$
The K&N FIPK is nothing more than a cone filter and a tiny bracket. Trust me. Don't spend your money on that, just get a cone and fab up your own bracket or airbox. The FIPK doesn't even come with a heat shield/airbox

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Im thanking about selling my Densecharger kit (www.densecharger.com). When it rains the filter gets wet and the car run like sh#t, I thank I'll put my box back on with a K&N filter panel.
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Im thanking about selling my Densecharger kit (www.densecharger.com). When it rains the filter gets wet and the car run like sh#t, I thank I'll put my box back on with a K&N filter panel.

Keep me updated...I might buy it from you.
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Have fun doing it... I slapped in a Cold Air Intake... took several hours... ran into a prob attaching the Cone to the pipe in the given space in the fender with hardly anyway of getting your hands down in there. I think i did a stupid way of doing it... lol. Oh well... it works. Sounds a lil meaner. Nice whistle on startup and shutdown.

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Have fun doing it... I slapped in a Cold Air Intake... took several hours... ran into a prob attaching the Cone to the pipe in the given space in the fender with hardly anyway of getting your hands down in there. I think i did a stupid way of doing it... lol. Oh well... it works. Sounds a lil meaner. Nice whistle on startup and shutdown.
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mac exhaust makes a cold air kit for our cars for $175 for everything/but i bought my mustang tube used for 75 it's of a 2000 stang it's also from mac call joe harder at 913-310-9898 he does alot of supercharged cars so he may have another intake tube. www.harderperformance.com
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Pre '96'ers need to get rid of their violin case airtubes.....no argument there.

"Blue" filters were first introduced by Holley with their "Power Shot" line.
They, most assuredly, require oil.

Ninety degree bends, especially before the MAF, are not engine friendly.

I'd reread GB's post again.....no filter has proven any documented power
gains (other than self promoting statements from the manufacturer or an
auto rag that's in their pockets) except A-Train's 5 add'l hp at peak rpm
only, on an sc'd engine.

For the heavily modded and big power adder boys.....opening up the air
stream obviously adds a margin of safety unneeded by 90% of the rest
of us. Keeping a clean paper filter in your airbox will provide you with as
much airflow as you're going to need.......but the wood factor is a powerful
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i feel secure with my intake setupright now.......yes.....all stock.....i may get a k&n so i dont have to buy paper filters when they get all nasty.......but thats when the brand new paper one gets dirty.....witch wont be for a while

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I live in dusty dusty desert west texas and I have to replace my paper filter 2, MAYBE 3 times a year. It stay shockingly clean.

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Dont spend $175 dollars!!! I spent $50 bucks on Ebay for a Civic Cold Air intake the guy redone to fit a Thunderbird/Cougar. $50 bucks for Tube.... clamps... and Filter. It does as good a job as K&N or any other "Brand" names. You still hear the whistle and better throttle response.

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