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Question 4.6 serpentine belt life

My first belt was fine for about 4 years but I decided to change it because it had been on the car so long. The replacement belt was made by Gates and is now about 6 months old and makes a lot of noise , especially when started the first time of the day, temp around 85 degrees. Belt conditioner will stop the noise for a few minutes and after the engine has warmed up it is not as loud. No glazing and the ribs are lined up on all the pullys. What causes this and did I just get a bum belt?
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goodyear gatorback solves all problems

I'm not sure about belt life tho
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I was not aware that Goodyear made gatorback serpentine belts, I thought that gatorbacks were tire names only. I guess I will give one a try, it has to last longer than six months!
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I run the Gatorback on my car, because without it, no matter what belt I put on it, It would squeal on high rpm 1-2 shifts. I thought that that belt was bad after a couple months, and replaced it because I had another squeal, but my problem ended up being the belt tensioner pulley had gone bad.
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Hi Rich, I never thought of that because it only squeaks at low rpm but it's still a good idea to compare it's tension against another one, Thanks.
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Hi Rich, I never thought of that because it only squeaks at low rpm but it's still a good idea to compare it's tension against another one, Thanks.
Richard
My Gates started to squeal after 6 months also. The Gatorback solved the problem. Bennet sells the goodyear for much cheaper than the Goodyear dealer.

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The gatorbacks are supposedly supposed to last around 50k. However, I have had a gates on my Caprice for 40k and have had no problems. I installed a gatorback on the '94 tbird but it still squeeks so I'm guessing its the power steering pump.

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ditto on the high rpm squeling, its when my car shifts relaly hard i hear a squel then it goes away, i think my idler has gone bad, is that a hard fix rich?

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I replaced mine with another Ford belt. Never had any sqeaks. The motorcraft belt actually has adhesive on it. 2 years in it so far and it's still sticky.

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ditto on the high rpm squeling, its when my car shifts relaly hard i hear a squel then it goes away, i think my idler has gone bad, is that a hard fix rich?
Nope, if you just want to change the pullyand bearing it takes all of 10 minutes, Just remove the tension with a half inch drive ratchet(if I remember right) then unbolt the center bolt remove the pully and put in a new one, pep boys and autozone have them in stock. If you think the tension spring has gotten weak then after you remove the old pully remove the tensioner assembly from the front of the engine and bolt on a new one, which is probably a dealer only part $$$ I have not looked but I don't think there is a bolt you can't get to with out removing the engine but it was designed by ford.

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I thought that that belt was bad after a couple months, and replaced it because I had another squeal, but my problem ended up being the belt tensioner pulley had gone bad.
I had a pretty nasty squeak too, but just the same, a new tensioner pully/assy fixed it. I kept cringing when i heard it, sounded like one of the pulleys was gonna snap off or sumthin.

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mine is just a squeek coming out of 1st gear, i think its the tensioner really

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The squeak between shifts could be just a belt, that's what mine was. It was a few months later that the squealing from the tensioner pulley started. Like was said before, 10 minutes and $8 later, it was fixed. The pulley was cheaper than the Gatorback belt.
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Gatorback all the way - not a peap out of it even with a neckbreaking 1-2 shift
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mine's starting to squeak on 3k+ rpm 1-2 shifts...... belt is less than a year old, maybe the pulley i guess.
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I thought that high RPM squeal between 1-2 shifts was my front tires spinning
Not really, I wasn't entirely sure what it was but it was starting to bug me. As far as I know(I do have the service logs) I still have the stock belt on my car and she's at 160k. I could be mistaken, I'll have to check the logs.
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my ford belt got cracks in the ribs @ 50,000
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I would just look at the belt, if its looking cracked at all replace it, or at least start carrying a spare. If it looks good, leave it alone.

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I always keep my old belt in the trunk in case I need an emergency spare
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Hey kentwood I do the same thing. I always change the belt at 50,000 mile intervals. The one I don't know when to do is the timming belt/chain...

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Hey kentwood I do the same thing. I always change the belt at 50,000 mile intervals. The one I don't know when to do is the timming belt/chain...
You have timing chains - they never need to be replaced
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Well I wouldn't say NEVER.... call it, preventitive maintainance(sp).

And a reason to replace your cams....
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